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#86826: Sep 9th 2018 at 7:42:11 PM

Seems pretty straightforward. Porunga is stronger than Shenron, so Porunga could grant wishes that affect Shenron or people stronger than Shenron but weaker than Porunga, while Shenron couldn't supersede Porunga's power unless Porunga gave Shenron permission.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 9th 2018 at 7:42:12 AM

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#86827: Sep 10th 2018 at 3:38:18 PM

I know this a given but do you guys trhink that Dragon Ball can be really dark, nihilistic and dour sometimes? I know Dragon Ball is lighthearted series about martial artists fighting but Dragon Ball can be really dark when you think about it.

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Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#86828: Sep 10th 2018 at 3:59:34 PM

[up] What part were you watching? Gohan vs Cell. It can't be the Black arc; that one was all sunshine and lollipops.

SE Dit: that part earlier about King Kai giving the Saiyan history? I took Beerus to be the God who got sick of the Saiyans, not the Super Saiyan God. Beerus was known to both King Kai and the Vegeta family, and was the one who convinced Freeza to get rid of his cash cows. It would be well within Beerus's job description to do so if they posed a threat to the Kais.

Edited by Sailor11sedna on Sep 10th 2018 at 4:05:16 AM

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#86830: Sep 10th 2018 at 4:52:18 PM

I'd say no, at least not in the way GAP means.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#86831: Sep 10th 2018 at 5:14:45 PM

I've always found it funny that Cell has canonically killed less people than Vegeta yet he remains pure evil from start to finish, and Vegeta ends up having a Heel–Face Turn. Particuarly in the Cell Saga where Vegeta's still enough of a prick he'd probably kill more people than Cell if he felt motivated

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#86832: Sep 10th 2018 at 5:32:26 PM

I'd be interested in seeing a canonical body count tally for each character. The Zeno probably win, followed by Zamasu, followed by the various Gods of Destruction, followed by Buu and Freeza, followed by Vegeta. Depending on how culpable you think Goku is for the Tournament of Power, his body count is either in the 10s or in the trillions.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#86833: Sep 10th 2018 at 7:09:17 PM

Does body count matter if he still intends to kill people?

I feel like it shouldn't.

I feel like it does not.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#86834: Sep 10th 2018 at 7:57:08 PM

That definitely doesn't count, if it did such a statistic would be meaningless.

@Sigil the manga Cell arc isn't that much longer and the whole recruiting Dende bit adds humour where it is appropriate.

The Namek arc also doesn't have a lot of room for humour when it is being serious, and it's about the same length.

It would be a much larger issue for the story to be unable to take itself seriously when it needs to, and as much as I love the Boo arc this is a pretty big issue it has where horrible things happen but they still make gags through it and undermine any emotional reactions.

Perfect Cell is definitely distinct from Freeza. His love of combat and challenge is distinct from Freeza, and clearly mirrors Goku and Vegeta. He definitely feels like he combines the personality traits of the people he is made from (including the way evil Piccolo Jnr acted), but the end result still feels like a singular character.

Super Boo and Cell aren't very similar. Fat Boo enjoyed fighting stronger guys, and Super Boo inherited that and twisted it into needing to be the strongest. That is similar to Perfect Cell, but it is also a common mentality of powerful fighters in DB.

After absorbing Piccolo and Gotenks he does act more like Cell in his snarkiness, but that makes sense when he's influenced by Piccolo.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#86835: Sep 10th 2018 at 8:09:20 PM

Yes, when people say Super Buu is just Perfect Cell again they are referring to Buutenks and Buuhan.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86836: Sep 10th 2018 at 8:13:48 PM

I never saw Piccoro as the snarky type...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#86837: Sep 10th 2018 at 8:25:20 PM

Even then, he's not that similar to Cell beyond 'is evil and snarky'. His reaction to thinking he beat Vegetto isn't anything like Cell.

And he actually tries to prevent Goku and Vegeta fusing, which is much unlike Perfect Cell.

[up] Evil Piccolo really enjoyed gloating and shit-talking people.

Edited by Saiga on Sep 11th 2018 at 1:25:10 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#86838: Sep 10th 2018 at 8:32:30 PM

Surprised he never became a deadpan snarker...

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#86839: Sep 10th 2018 at 11:24:00 PM

Villains being snarky in Dragonball is actually pretty common. Goku Black seems to be the only main villain in a while with zero snark, and he's arguably the most serious antagonist

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#86840: Sep 11th 2018 at 12:14:01 AM

Let's analyze that:

Pilaf: not very snarky
Roshi: a little snarky
Staff Officer Black: not very snarky
Tenshinhan: a little snarky
King Piccolo: there's some snark
Piccolo Jr: quite snarky
Vegeta: a little snarky
Freeza: quite snarky
Cell: very snarky
Fat Buu: not very snarky
Super Buu: quite snarky
Kid Buu: not very snarky (closest is his sexy dance)
Beerus: quite snarky
Freeza again: still quite snarky
Hit: not very snarky
Goku Black: a little snarky
Fused Zamasu: not very snarky
Jiren: not very snarky

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#86841: Sep 11th 2018 at 12:18:23 AM

Heh 5 out of 17. tongue

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86842: Sep 11th 2018 at 1:07:45 AM

Snark: an imaginary animal(referring to people hard to locate)

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#86843: Sep 11th 2018 at 1:09:07 AM

I think that’s a snipe.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86844: Sep 11th 2018 at 1:13:02 AM

It should be, but that's the description I got when I googled the word Snark.

But a Snipe is real.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 11th 2018 at 1:15:45 AM

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Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#86845: Sep 11th 2018 at 1:32:35 AM

Super Buu was snarky before he absorbed anyone ("May I attack now?", "Why should I?", the Human Extinction Attack, "you're an egg", faking being hurt by Gotenks' attacks to troll him, etc.).

Edited by Kamiccolo on Sep 11th 2018 at 1:36:06 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86846: Sep 11th 2018 at 1:46:49 AM

None of that is snarky...it's pretty deadpan.

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#86847: Sep 11th 2018 at 4:17:45 AM

Dunno piccolo, maybe because you ARE a weakling

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Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#86848: Sep 11th 2018 at 5:07:44 AM

I feel bad for the Namekians; they were once feared for sorcery, able to spawn monsters to do their bidding. Now they just get the Dragon Balls beaten off of them, and their only way to stand a chance against Saiyan teir opponents is to pull a Saonel and Pirina.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86849: Sep 11th 2018 at 5:20:13 AM

[up]This entire post has said nothing factual.

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#86850: Sep 11th 2018 at 9:56:28 AM

Would a Saiyan still transform into the mighty Oozaru if they saw the full moon during the daytime? Vegeta seemed to think so, he planned their arrival to happen at a time when the full moon would be out. Goku also transformed during the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai in the evening. So, why didn't Goku and Gohan constantly go Oozaru whenever the full moon was out at daytime?

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 11th 2018 at 9:56:16 AM


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