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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#86476: Aug 26th 2018 at 10:29:40 PM

I was basically pointing out how Zamasu seems to be a dick no matter what timeline. Future Zamasu never even met Goku until the Future Trunks Saga, but doesn't have the slightest hesitation following Goku Black when he learns he's another version of himself. And doesn't exactly argue against Black's accusation he wanted to overthrow Gowasu, suggesting Zamasu was going to lose it anyway and Goku just sped up the process. Though playing devil's advocate, this was being told by Goku Black so maybe he's an Unreliable Narrator and showed Future Zamasu a few more examples of Humans Are Bastards to get him to turn.

It's worth noting that the current year of the arc(in the present timeline) is 779, which Present Zamasu was originally going to murder Gowasu. He'd skip a year to use the Super Dragonballs, aka age 780. Then he could immediately jump timelines to meet Future Zamasu. age 780 is also when Future Gohan died, so in an interesting coincidence the death of Gohan in that timeline saw both the birth of the present timeline(as it forced Trunks to go back in time for a solution) and the death of the future timeline with Black's arrival. They could immediately use the Super Dragonballs since Beerus and Champa wouldn't have done so in that timeline, go forward a year to destroy them, giving Goku Black and Future Zamasu over a decade to rampage across the multiverse before attacking Earth

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Aug 27th 2018 at 5:32:30 AM

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#86477: Aug 27th 2018 at 4:52:02 AM

How big do you think the various giant characters are, and how do they compare to each other in size?

Here are my estimations of the Dragon Ball giant sizes:
Zalama: 50 billion light years long
Giant Ribrianne: 150 meters tall
Porunga: 120 meters long
Anilaza: 38 meters tall
Shenlong: 30 meters long
Humongous Bergamo: 25 meters tall
Giant Piccolo 2: 17.6 meters tall
The various Oozaru (I always interpreted them as 10 times taller than the Saiyan they came from, so smaller Saiyans make smaller Oozaru and vice-versa):
Oozaru Vegeta: 16.4 meters tall
Oozaru Kid Gohan 2: 12.2 meters tall
Oozaru Kid Goku: 11.7 meters tall
Oozaru Kid Gohan 1: 10.4 meters tall
Giant Piccolo 1: 880 centimeters tall
Koichiarator: 770 centimeters tall
Giant Fused Zamasu: 440 centimeters tall
After this point, they can't really be called giants, since the next few include Ox King, Magetta, and King Piccolo.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 27th 2018 at 4:51:59 AM

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#86478: Aug 27th 2018 at 5:50:40 AM

Pretty sure your Zalama size is wrong, because the galaxies are still discernable as galaxies, though it's really hard to determine size in space due to perspective really screwing with things when you're at that scale.

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#86479: Aug 27th 2018 at 10:59:04 AM

I was going off this shot where you can see a teeny-tiny galaxy (helpfully circled) right in front of his head, and it's barely the size of one of his scales. This galaxy is so much smaller that it has to be that it's just super close to him, which means all the other galaxies that look much larger are in fact just really far away from Zalama and really close to the camera.

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#86480: Aug 27th 2018 at 11:59:27 AM

Writers Have No Sense of Scale.

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#86481: Aug 27th 2018 at 2:20:20 PM

Freeza is a pirate who kills people and takes their stuff, how is that remotely lawful.

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#86482: Aug 27th 2018 at 2:35:58 PM

He's not actually a pirate. He's a real-estate developer. Apparently, when you're strong enough that the police can't do shit to you, there are no consequences to openly murdering people for their planets. There are people who buy planets from him.

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#86483: Aug 27th 2018 at 3:34:40 PM

Frieza was apparently based on real-life amoral rich people who deliberately inflamed Japan's '80s-'90s economic crash to make themselves richer.

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#86484: Aug 27th 2018 at 3:35:05 PM

Which still baffles me

The real estate sharkery very much feels an artifact from before the power levels ballooned so drastically

Edited by Bocaj on Aug 27th 2018 at 6:35:47 AM

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#86485: Aug 27th 2018 at 3:57:59 PM

Being Lawful isn't necessarily about following laws.

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#86486: Aug 27th 2018 at 4:21:10 PM

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Makes sense. Since he's constantly wiping out indigenous life, in theory, he'd just be selling and re-selling to people who lost planets to him before.

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#86487: Aug 27th 2018 at 4:27:46 PM

The idea of Asura coming out of nowhere to punch Zalama's head in mistaking him for The similarlyl large chakravatin fills me with giggles.

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#86488: Aug 27th 2018 at 4:41:32 PM

Here's a question I had: since the U6/U7 tournament was set on the neutral planet between universes, does that mean that Zalama was so big that he was taking up space in both universes? Like, the galaxies on one half of his body were U6 and the galaxies on the other were U7. I know that wasn't shown in any sort of way, and it raises a bunch of questions about where the universes are in relation to each other, but it's such a cool and thematically fitting interpretation of those events that I really want it to be true.

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#86489: Aug 27th 2018 at 5:26:22 PM

The milky way is around 100000 light years, a whole 0.0002 percent of your estimate. I stand 1.86m, so if I was the size of your Zalama estimate, the milky way galaxy would be around the size of bacteria. Granted that galaxy could still be further from Zalama than shown, and Zalama is very long, but can you at least give some form of calculations to back up that number rather than just giving a guess?

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#86490: Aug 27th 2018 at 6:09:25 PM

You know what? That's fair. I was just throwing out a big number based on how large some people estimate Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is. Now Zalama is very long in relation to his body, but it probably wouldn't be that great of a difference.

Let's say that particular galaxy is about comparable to a grain of sand to Zalama, about 1 mm to us. Also going off of the size of the Milky Way at 100,000 light-years across, that would put Zalama about 180 million light-years tall, not factoring in his body spiral, which would multiply his length by about 7, equalling about 1.25 billion light-years long, much smaller than my earlier 50 billion estimate.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 27th 2018 at 6:10:27 AM

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#86491: Aug 27th 2018 at 6:26:02 PM

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann also have severe issues in scaling, so I wouldn't use that. The numbers do seem more reasonable now, but I highly doubt it will ever be confirmed by an official source.

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#86492: Aug 28th 2018 at 12:21:53 AM

Caulifla and Kale's dub voices:

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#86493: Aug 28th 2018 at 12:43:24 AM

Kale's voice doesn't sit well with me for some reason, but Caulifla's is on point. It reminds me of Lunch's dub voice.

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#86494: Aug 28th 2018 at 12:49:29 AM

“Nothing in the universe” eh?

I don’t know, I think I can name a couple people. tongue

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#86495: Aug 28th 2018 at 2:29:14 AM

Nothing in their universe, maybe, though that might be selling Hit too short. Caulifla's voice is good. Kale's is obviously based on her post-character development. I'll need to hear her in both pre-character development and in LSS to see how well she sells the shyness and hyper-aggressive threats. Kale's Japanese voice actress really was a treasure, what with how much range she had.

Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#86496: Aug 28th 2018 at 7:10:53 AM

So apparently Xenoverse has had the DLC Data mined and two more characters have been found for the DLC pack that will come out in December the two characters are

Gogeta and Broly

if this is legit then this is a pretty big spoiler for the movie.

Also calling it now Vegito Blue and Gogeta Red

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86497: Aug 28th 2018 at 8:51:35 AM

Lunch's dub voice...that honestly doesn't even seem real.

No, nevermind...she doesn't sound anything like Lunch.

Edited by randomness4 on Aug 28th 2018 at 8:52:04 AM

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#86498: Aug 28th 2018 at 11:01:27 AM

The person who voiced Lunch in the dub is the same person that voiced Android 18, Meredith Mc Coy. But I'm not sure that's her voicing Caulifla.

And i love that Kale would rather be Super Saiyan Rose than Blue.

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#86499: Aug 28th 2018 at 11:29:50 AM

Honestly, that sounds like Stephanie Sheh voicing both characters.

Edited by Lionheart0 on Aug 28th 2018 at 2:35:28 PM

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#86500: Aug 28th 2018 at 11:33:56 AM

[up][up]Randomness meant to say that she doesn't have a "similar" voice...

Not that's she's the same.

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