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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#86176: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:07:40 PM

I like Chi Chi

Damn that feel when Vegeta is a better husband than you

I feel sorry for her

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#86177: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:16:11 PM

You do remember who forced who into this marriage, right?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#86178: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:16:52 PM

But he's not...

People seem to conveniently forget that Vegeta didn't give a damn about his family at first and was perfectly willing to let them die.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#86179: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:22:22 PM

As of Super she is actively manipulative and dishonest for her own gain
Everyone is a jackass in Super. Literally everyone.

Except Mr. Satan and Shin, who are pure cinnamon rolls.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#86180: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:26:15 PM

Gohan, Videl, Goten, Trunks, Puar, Obuni, Marron, Pan and many other minor characters that you choose to ignore.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#86181: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:26:40 PM

While it's basically comparing a douche and a turd, I really don't see how Vegeta is supposed to be a better husband.

Vegeta can sometimes be convinced to begrudgingly accompany his family places, and puts in absolutely no effort aside from that. Goku can be convinced to farm, even then it's pointless and he could make much more money anyway doing what he loves.

Both will usually leave at the slightest opportunity to train or if they think the other will get ahead of them.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 16th 2018 at 11:27:14 AM

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#86182: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:28:16 PM

Chi Chi can fight but she is weaker than anyone in Super. She will have to train ine forest for a few months to be as strong 17. tongue

"Mai waifu."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#86183: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:31:02 PM

Vegeta cares, he's just incredibly tsundere about it.

Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#86184: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:33:05 PM

Gohan
"lol who even gives a fuck about protecting my family after my negligence nearly doomed the universe, daddy can take care of that."
Videl
Not a character.
Puar, Obuni, Marron, Pan
They have lines?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#86185: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:33:22 PM

@Yakuzu Hahahahahahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!!! [lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol]

Again ya made me laugh, that’s true, that’s true. [lol][tup][lol][tup][lol][tup]

Also I assume Saiyan’s are more the free love kinda people. Entering any hole & having anything entered in their hole as they please.

And yes Chi-Chi is not the sympathetic party here nor is Vegeta that good of a husband.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#86186: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:35:15 PM

[up][up][up]I didn't say Vegeta didn't care, I said he only puts in the minimal amount of effort.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#86187: Aug 16th 2018 at 9:39:22 PM

[up][up][up] Mr Satan the con man and Mr "I'm gonna ignore Freiza and let my universe be the second worst in the multiverse".

Not to mention considering Shin a character over Obuni, who has an entire episode, compared to Shin, who's only contribution in Super is as a transport vehicle.

Edited by Ikedatakeshi on Aug 17th 2018 at 1:09:17 AM

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#86188: Aug 16th 2018 at 11:00:42 PM

Y’all are savage lol

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#86189: Aug 16th 2018 at 11:35:02 PM

Beerus is still worse at his job, because at least Shin has the excuse of only having his job because everyone else is dead or inactive.

Hm...maybe we should be blaming Whis, because he is the attendant for Beerus and thus his responsibility

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#86190: Aug 16th 2018 at 11:46:21 PM

During Z he can be excused for not taking out Freiza since he was focusing on Buu and was inexperienced, but during Super the Old Kai seem to have not taught him since the end of Z, considering he doesn't even know he has a co-worker or higher-ups. How much time has passed between Z and Super anyway?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86191: Aug 16th 2018 at 11:51:16 PM

Either 5 years or a few months, depending on how you're measuring time. The start of Super says that it's only been a few months, but accepting that requires retconning Pan and Bra's ages to be closer to Uub's age.

Personally, I go with the latter, which indicates that it's only been 2, maybe 2 and a half years since the Buu Saga at the point Super is at now.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 16th 2018 at 11:56:18 AM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#86192: Aug 17th 2018 at 12:52:17 AM

possible spoilers are out for the next super manga chapter. roshi sacrifices himself to take kefla out, and u6 is erased.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#86193: Aug 17th 2018 at 3:56:56 AM

Sometimes I think that Goku always wants to go somewhere to train to escape Chi Chi incessant shrieking. Kami knows that's a good reason.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86194: Aug 17th 2018 at 7:32:30 AM

I'm always going to defend Shin, because his position is not his fault.

If Beerus hadn't sealed Old Kai in a sword and then slept through Buu's massacre, Old Kai would still be Kai, and maybe their universe would be better.

Shin did the best he could, but was saddled with a job he wasn't prepared for, and people who flat out ignored him when it was convenient to them.

As for Chi-Chi...she's a joke. Literally. Everything about her character since she showed up at the 23rd Budokai is built on a joke, first a massive Brick Joke, then about being a nagging wife and Education Mama.

And it's a stupid joke at that, since Goku would be far happier and in his element teaching Martial Arts...or so I'd say, if I believed for a moment that Goku cares about teaching anyone. He only wants to find good fights himself, and barring Gohan (which was a necessity) and Uub (who was Buu reincarnated, and a good sparring partner) has never shown an inkling of interest in teaching others.

Toriyama seems to have latched on to the Goku is not a good father idea for humour as well, which infuriates me (because dammit, all of Goku's fathering issues in Z stem from outside forces, and when something isn't making him not be there—or the author isn't writing him out—he's clearly a very good dad).

In summation, Handsome Rob right, everyone else wrong.

...Rob for Pope.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#86195: Aug 17th 2018 at 7:35:05 AM

I was going to say popes aren't voted for but that not exactly correct

I guess you'd need to find who the dbz cardinals are

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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#86196: Aug 17th 2018 at 7:58:33 AM

At least Goku is a good father towards Goten, and its apparent Chi Chi had lightened up considerably when raising the kid compared to Gohan.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86197: Aug 17th 2018 at 8:10:07 AM

Unless you're Toei, where she's back to it with Goten now.sad

Now I wish Toriyama had never brought Chi-Chi back, if this is all anyone can think to do with her.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#86198: Aug 17th 2018 at 9:01:42 AM

It is what it is and dragon ball has never been anything except what it is but I lament the ballooning power levels because I would have loved a battle couple moment with Chichi and Goku.

She was never going to catch up because nobody was but she also didn't have to become the one note joke she did.

She could have been okay with Gohan learning to fight as long as he also knew how to read. Even Roshi taught Goku to read. And her deal could have been less 'no fighting he must become respectable member of society, I mean I hear society is great, I personally live in a flaming mountain but it must be great, this society' to more 'I thiiiiink he's too young to take a punch? Maybe lets wait until he can use the toilet reliably'

More than anything else I just feel bad for Chichi through the first half of dragonball z. Her husband dies and her son gets kidnapped from a party she wasn't invited to (or didn't want to come to? It was an underpopulated party really). Then she doesn't see her son for a year while he's being trained by her dead husband's archenemy and then her husband comes back to life but gets put in the hospital and her son goes off to space. And then her husband goes off to space and then disappears on an exploding planet, deciding to train in space instead of coming home when he's been dead or in the hospital for most of the recent past.

And then her husband comes back but then takes her son to go train to fight some deadly androids and then takes him into a magical room so she misses a whole year of her son growing up in a day and then her husband dies again.

It would take someone with the patience of a saint to take that in stride.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86199: Aug 17th 2018 at 9:13:20 AM

I mean I hear society is great, I personally live in a flaming mountain but it must be great

At first I was like Zabuuuh?

Then I remembered you were talking about Chi-chi.

Well, Toriyama is a gag writer at heart. While action became something he focused on more, I think the jokes are what really brings him to the game, for better or for worse.

Chi-Chi had as much potential as any character, and it's sad that that was thrown away for cheap gags about what a nag she is. She could have been more, even if her being important in combat was never going to be a thing.

One Strip! One Strip!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#86200: Aug 17th 2018 at 9:58:55 AM

Gohan and Kafla seem to KO each other Jackie-v-Goku style


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