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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#86101: Aug 14th 2018 at 8:20:01 PM

Or just being sick makes it difficult for Goku to fly for an extended period of time. It's really not a good example.

Not everyone accepts the V Jump battle power because it's pretty sketchy, and the tense of Vegeta's wording doesn't matter if he's referring to multiple instances.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#86102: Aug 15th 2018 at 4:57:24 AM

I think the only fight that really struck me as good in the manga's Tournament of Power was Frieza vs the Saiyan girls. Every other fight falls short compared to its anime counterpart to me.

Yeah, overall i much prefer everyone's showing in the anime to the manga.

And man, a lot of people hating in the human characters here.

Honestly I don't even remember non-rapist Roshi. If that ever even existed.

Watch the tournament arcs in og Dragon Ball. The King Piccolo arc too.

Edited by Cortez on Aug 15th 2018 at 8:16:14 AM

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#86103: Aug 15th 2018 at 5:07:51 AM

Or...maybe people are just kind of tired of hearing people talk about them constantly.

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#86104: Aug 15th 2018 at 5:08:12 AM

[up][up]I agree. Frost taking everyone out was a little entertaining but didn't show anything interesting from anyone aside from Frost (aside from Comfrey having super strength). Hit and Goku vs Jiren ruined Hit by getting rid of his entire fighting style and turning him into just another boring generic fighter. Kale vs the Pride Troopers as a team could've been cool if the Pride Troopers had their anime-exclusive superpowers, but as the "exclusive" part indicated, they were just generic fighters too. I actually don't remember any other fight from the manga, and the ones I do recall don't really qualify as "fights", such as Kale vs Anilaza.

The Saiyan girls vs Freeza is the one good fight in the Tournament of Power manga, and it's not even as good as its anime counterpart; the Saiyan girls vs Goku (round 2, specifically), which is one of my favorite fights in this whole franchise.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 15th 2018 at 5:10:25 AM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#86105: Aug 15th 2018 at 5:18:35 AM

Or...maybe people are just kind of tired of hearing people talk about them constantly

You mean like people are tired of hearing about Saiyans all the time? Which happens more often.

You're not making any sense.

@Pushover Media Critic:

Yes, exactly!

Edited by Cortez on Aug 15th 2018 at 8:23:34 AM

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#86106: Aug 15th 2018 at 5:38:20 AM

What does the Saiyan have anything to do with this? People are just tired of people keep demanding relevance to the humans.

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#86107: Aug 15th 2018 at 5:39:06 AM

Why would the earth explode in ten years Cell? Global warming? No seriously i'm curious

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#86108: Aug 15th 2018 at 6:06:31 AM

[up][up]

Even as someone who does wish the humans got to do more (as Toriyama has always kinda pushed them aside, though Krillin not as much), I can get being sick of this dead horse topic.

I think when it comes to humans in DBZ, all sides get a bit testy.

[up]...Can't understand a word of that, so can't really laugh at it.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Aug 15th 2018 at 7:12:19 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#86109: Aug 15th 2018 at 6:33:41 AM

[up][up][up] Literally nobody was talking about Saiyans. No one.

This line of conversation always comes up because people never stop talking how the humans should be relevant or constantly lamenting that they aren't.

And this has been happening for years. So yea, excuse me for being a little irritated by the constant repetition since being here.

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#86110: Aug 15th 2018 at 7:11:20 AM

[up][up] Cell says that he's gonna blow up the earth...then says earth is gonna blow up anyways in ten years, not giving a reason why, he just...says it

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#86111: Aug 15th 2018 at 8:20:40 AM

Spanish Cell clearly knew about Beerus.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#86112: Aug 15th 2018 at 8:54:52 AM

The Buu Saga was seven or so years after Cell was defeated. Maybe he was just a couple years off.

Although, since getting special moves from DNA is bullshit already, maybe he got some genetic memory from Freeza and did know about Beerus?

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Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#86113: Aug 15th 2018 at 1:02:54 PM

Cell was secretly a prophet all along.

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#86114: Aug 15th 2018 at 2:33:43 PM

Dr. Gero made Cell binge-watch shows about Mayan prophecies and ancient aliens while incubating in his pod, and as a result Cell became one of those tinfoil hat types convinced a lizard god will eat the world in ten years.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#86115: Aug 15th 2018 at 3:24:40 PM

Or ideally, if he had a fun enough time he'd put off destroying the planet for ten years.evil grin

Or if he killed Gohan without destroying Earth, he'd come back in ten years and finish the job.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#86116: Aug 15th 2018 at 4:07:51 PM

Is it wrong for me to ask more about Cell and expect more of a detailed and complex character than we already got. I keep asking about the nature of whether he was destined or not to be evil and what his true purpose was, but I'm pretty sure Toriyama just wanted an evil Frankenstein's Monster and didn't think of any nuances for the second Bait-and-Switch Boss. Hell, I'm almost convinced that the only reason Cell is from the future is to tie into the time travel plot since being from the future plays little in Cell's characterization.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#86117: Aug 15th 2018 at 4:10:29 PM

His true purpose was to kill Goku like everything else Gero built. Simple.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86118: Aug 15th 2018 at 4:15:16 PM

Yes, it is wrong. You should only expect more if he went with rebellious creations...which already happened.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#86119: Aug 15th 2018 at 6:14:56 PM

It's kind of an issue that you're asking what his true purpose was as if it wasn't extremely blatant.

Him coming from the future is important, because if he was from the present there would be way more divergence from the future timeline and it'd be harder to reconcile.

And it gives Trunks a more appropriate 'final boss' for when he returns to his own timeline, really making use of the strength he developed.

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#86120: Aug 15th 2018 at 6:33:08 PM

Eh, I wouldn't necessarily qualify a one-sided curbstomp as a "final boss". Maybe if Cell had put up something resembling a fight, but it's better that he didn't. It's better for Trunks to just completely waste his ass with little effort.

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#86122: Aug 15th 2018 at 6:47:18 PM

He needed something after Cell made a mockery of him during Ultra Trunks & then straight up killed him outta nowhere.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86123: Aug 15th 2018 at 7:04:20 PM

Nah, it was definitely a final boss...

Trunks just grinded to be Over Leveled...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#86124: Aug 15th 2018 at 7:06:48 PM

Sometimes you level grind so much the final boss becomes a cake walk

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#86125: Aug 15th 2018 at 7:37:28 PM

He went back in time to be strong enough for the penultimate boss, but overachievered.

I get that feeling.

Totally.

Too bad honestly.

If Cell wasn't involved he actually would've legit been just strong enough for the challenge.

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