Um yeah. In order to be even with Goku's Kamehameha at Kaioken X3, there had to be a multiplier on the Galick Gun.
Otherwise, 18,000 Vegeta would not have been able to hold it back.
I mean, unless we're all missing something here Saiga, you may have to give this one to PMC.
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Nothing inspire like wanting to be right on the Internet.
Plus, I'm genuinely curious if we're all forgetting something here.
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In-universe you'd either have to convince them it's good training, tell them they'll be fighting people while singing...
...or unleash this unholy abomination:
The Para Para Dance is the best thing in all of Dragon Ball and no one can convince me otherwise.
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I didn't really care but things got pretty ridiculous/personal from that, hence the thumps.
Anyway, Galick Gun having a multiplier is a straight up contradiction for the reasons I stated. This still could be possible (early instalment weirdness) but I don't find it the most logical answer.
Goku's BP with Kaio-ken x20 was 60,000,000. 50% Freeza had a BP of 60,000,000. If Goku had a 2.22x multiplier on top of that he would have easily overpowering Freeza, and had more power than his 100%. Even a 1.25x multiplier should allow it to overpower Freeza.
The Galick Gun was never re-used in the series, so that doesn't matter, and the Final Flash was created after Vegeta learned to control his battle power.
Dodoria and Zarbon were shocked to discover Vegeta could raise his battle power to 24,000 in the Namek arc. They were shocked by this without the context of him doing this by powering up. That doesn't make sense if he could do that all along by preparing a Galick Gun.
Yeah, I suppose that makes sense, but then that means that Goku just lost an entire multiplier's worth of power when fighting Vegeta while Vegeta stayed near enough to max. While the characters do lose power as they fight and expend ki, the idea that Goku lost so much while Vegeta apparently didn't just doesn't sit right with me. I guess you could chalk that up to the Kaiouken wrecking Goku's body which made him expend ki faster. It makes logical sense and works within the series' lore.
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Honestly, I considered the same thing.
Either that, or both of their battle powers dropped enough that they were were relatively equal when they clashed.
Though I'm significantly worried about what I said back in that linked to post that I got myself thumped. I don't do that very often, so it bothers the hell out of me.
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I don't think he lost that much.
If we use the Freeza example to postulate that the Kaio-ken Kamehameha does not have an additional multiplier on top of it, then it's just Goku losing enough that his KK 3 is even with Vegeta.
Like, Goku could go from 8,000 -> 5,000 and Vegeta from 18,000 -> 15,000 and they'd be deadlocked.
That's certainly possible but then you run into the problem that the Kamehameha is stronger than the person using it except when it's not.

For the record, the Kamehameha Goku fired against Raditz raised his BP by about 222% (or 2.22 times). Raditz said that the number was still rising so it could be more.
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