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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#85251: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:07:09 PM

[up] I think it's more an issue of consent, because even though Vegeta was dead, he was conscious and agreed to thee fusion, where as this sounds like Kale was unconscious and therefore could not give consent.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#85252: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:08:08 PM

[up] That’s it exactly. [tup]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#85253: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:09:10 PM

Well, they could have agreed to something like this before hand.

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#85254: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:12:13 PM

[up] Full disclosure, never watched this particular part of the To P, so I don't know if Potara was an option that was discussed in U6 prior to the tournament, though I could see Champa smuggling them in as a "last resort" kind of thing. Still though, we'll have to wait for the manga to actually ship before judging this, though I will say that even if the Steven Universe subtext was there I doubt Toyotaro woulld explore it in any meaningful depth.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#85255: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:17:00 PM

[up] That's pretty much what Champa did, he gave the 2 the earrings as a last resort before the tournament. It's just that the anime also added that other universes also wanted to use patora mid-tournament. Only Kafla panned out, though there was almost a Universe 2 fusion between Rabanra and Zarbuto, and a 17/18 fusion was considered.

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Jul 18th 2018 at 1:17:58 PM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#85256: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:17:57 PM

[up][up]champa did indeed give them the earrings in the anime as a trump card and they used it while ssg goku was gonna knock out caulifla

Edited by Deadpoolrocks on Jul 18th 2018 at 11:19:45 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#85257: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:19:59 PM

A missed opportunity for a massive Fusion free for all but then again the whole Kefla plot was come up with on the spot.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#85258: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:28:04 PM

[up]u3 already had fusion as a plan, and u2 tried, u7 discussed it before deciding it wasnt worth the risk. presumably the other universes felt the same, that it wasnt worth losing both if the fusion got eliminated

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#85259: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:35:14 PM

There's a major difference between DBZ & Steven Universe.

This fusion talk is being blow out of proportion

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#85260: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:56:45 PM

Spoiler Alert (for the Super Manga):

*Slowly proceeds to hide away a relevant gag post that conveniently has to do with fusion talk.*


So, uh, how about that trailer later today, huh? It's expected to premiere within the hour of 2:15-3:15pm EST, hosted by Funimation X TOEI X WWE.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jul 19th 2018 at 3:04:34 PM

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#85261: Jul 19th 2018 at 12:05:49 AM

What a strange but interesting combination of people.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85262: Jul 19th 2018 at 12:12:02 AM

U4 and U11 both decided not to use Potara. Vermoud was confident that Jiren could win the tournament all by himself, and presumably Quitela didn't go for it because Gamisaras and Damon were both secrets and Damon also can't wear a Potara.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 19th 2018 at 12:11:51 PM

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#85263: Jul 19th 2018 at 8:15:54 AM

The full chapter is out, crazy stuff.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#85264: Jul 19th 2018 at 8:25:19 AM

Aw don't get my hopes up. I thought Viz had released it a couple days early for a second there.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#85265: Jul 19th 2018 at 8:26:26 AM

Nah, it's the raw chapter, but it's still fairly easy to follow.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#85266: Jul 19th 2018 at 9:12:08 AM

Manga spoilers: While DBZ fusion isn't the same as Steven Universe fusion, Caulifla and Kale fusing was treated as the culmination of their relationship in the show, so I can understand being disappointed that the manga loses that dynamic.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#85267: Jul 19th 2018 at 9:24:23 AM

I think it's more an issue of consent

That's ridiculous. They are a brand new person at this point.

[up]Exactly.

Edited by Cortez on Jul 19th 2018 at 12:26:42 PM

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#85268: Jul 19th 2018 at 9:33:25 AM

Steven Universe fusion is really weird and we definitely shouldn't act like fusion in all other properties is a blatant sex metaphor like it is in SU.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#85269: Jul 19th 2018 at 11:07:12 AM

Correction: The Funimation panel will be streamed by IGN at 5:15pm EST to 6:15 EST. Going by San Diego Comic Con's PST time, it would be 2:15-3:15pm PST. At the time of this post, we're three hours away.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#85270: Jul 19th 2018 at 11:43:18 AM

Funny stuff, Caulifla and Cabba consider Kale to be a "Legendary" Saiyan, a demon saiyan that appears every 1000 years.

Looks like that 1 bit of misconception is now canon, just in time for Broly's return.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#85271: Jul 19th 2018 at 2:00:43 PM

Broly has been referred to that way before as well, usually in games and stuff.

Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#85272: Jul 19th 2018 at 2:48:09 PM

@Aleistar

Consent's never been a requirement for Potara fusion. Old Kai himself is a potara fusion between a former supreme kai, who was clearly against fusing and protested against the witch wearing the ring, and an old witch, who didn't even know about the fusion. Neither gave consent yet they still fused.

[down] Ah. KK

Edited by Awesomekid42 on Jul 19th 2018 at 5:53:58 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#85273: Jul 19th 2018 at 2:49:39 PM

[up]The issue isn't whether it's mechanically possible, the issue people had was whether it's moral or not. Even with your example, that is not a good thing.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 19th 2018 at 4:51:29 AM

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#85274: Jul 19th 2018 at 2:56:16 PM

it would definitely require consent if it was permanent, but now that it's been retconned to temporary I really don't think it does.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#85275: Jul 19th 2018 at 3:23:20 PM

And here we gooooo

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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