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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#85201: Jul 18th 2018 at 6:59:16 AM

More manga leaks... The chapter ends with the start of Kafla vs Gohan. Also, Broly and Paragus in V-Jump.

EDIT: Base Goku and Scouter Vegeta for DBFZ and Kafla for Xenoverse 2.

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Jul 18th 2018 at 9:30:58 AM

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#85202: Jul 18th 2018 at 7:50:37 AM

I liked the Gotenks vs Super Buu fight a lot, but I gotta be real. The only reason those kids weren't killed 5 times over is because Buu inexplicably became the most patient person on earth.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#85203: Jul 18th 2018 at 7:56:38 AM

Actually, it was because Buu himself was stalling due to sensing Gohan in otherworld.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85204: Jul 18th 2018 at 8:17:32 AM

The Buu Saga is just chock full of people who totally could have beaten Buu swearsies but were dramatically overvaluing themselves.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#85205: Jul 18th 2018 at 8:25:50 AM

Boo saga is basically the sayians saving the day, despite their best efforts.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85206: Jul 18th 2018 at 8:27:02 AM

Heh

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#85207: Jul 18th 2018 at 8:28:47 AM

>Scouter Vegeta

>Doesn't wear a scouter

Good job, Arc Sys.

This song needs more love.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#85209: Jul 18th 2018 at 8:41:48 AM

Oh cool, Kafla vs. Gohan might be interesting. Though then we miss out on Ultra Instinct Skating Kamehameha.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#85210: Jul 18th 2018 at 10:35:53 AM

Oh man, Gohan vs. Kefla is gonna be a meme fight lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#85211: Jul 18th 2018 at 10:48:03 AM

Alright, here's the full down-low: Kale goes Berserk and starts beating Golden Frieza and Blue Goku. Aniraza suddenly appears and wrecks shit. Universe 4 and the Namekians are also beaten. Some Pride Troopers are also beaten, but not ringed-out. Kale defeats Aniraza. Kale is almost ringed-out, but Cabba switches with her at last minute. Caulifla and Kale fuse, and Gohan is going to fight Kafla.

Universes 3, 4 and 10 are out.

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Jul 18th 2018 at 12:56:53 PM

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#85212: Jul 18th 2018 at 10:52:22 AM

How the hell is Gohan supposed to fight Kefla?

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#85213: Jul 18th 2018 at 10:53:16 AM

[up]You should probably spoiler that. Also, it's obvious. By unlocking Super Saiyan Blanco.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#85214: Jul 18th 2018 at 10:53:18 AM

Either 1 of 2 ways:

  • Gohan gets a new form
  • He just doesn't

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Jul 18th 2018 at 12:53:14 PM

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#85215: Jul 18th 2018 at 10:56:10 AM

I kind of love that Universe 11 is apparently still at 10 people.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85216: Jul 18th 2018 at 11:45:25 AM

Oh, wow, no. That'd be so awful. We don't need another 'Saiyan beyond God/two base theory' on our hands. And that just makes the God form hierarchy even messier, it's crowded enough just with God and Blue.

Adding God Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2 to that is just a clusterfuck. Really, just adding '2' forms is a bad idea at this point, much less interesting than the God-Blue switching or transformations that actually mean something different.

In this version, you've got Super Saiyan God which is form with Godly ki, then you've got Godly Super Saiyan which is Super Saiyan + Super Saiyan God but vaguely not complete, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan which is Super Saiyan + Super Saiyan God but complete, then Godly Super Saiyan 2 which is Super Saiyan + Super Saiyan God but vaguely not complete but also more, and then Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2 just for sheer overkill.

Like clearly the progression from an incomplete Godly form would be the complete one, not incomplete 2.

And the minute you make '2' a thing, it's obvious that 3 must be a thing, making that a foregone conclusion and we really just don't need a third form of either.

Well, I would also have Godly Ki base, which is weaker than Super Saiyan God and is what SS1 is stacked onto to make SSB. If GSS looks distinct enough, say, if it looks like SSI, then there's no confusion between it and normal Super Saiyan. More forms is not necessarily a bad thing, and I don't understand why you seem to think that. More transformations is something that can be handled poorly, but it also can be handled well. The characters having more transformation essentially allows for there to be more depth to tiers of power. More transformations allows weaker characters to be relevant just by having them be comparable to weaker transformations, and having more variety and depth to character interactions and power escalation can be a good thing. Also, I would have SSB3 be a thing, as the form Vegeta unlocks in place of SSBE.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 18th 2018 at 11:45:18 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85218: Jul 18th 2018 at 12:41:52 PM

[up]Yeah, that's almost definitely going to be his intro.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#85219: Jul 18th 2018 at 12:43:22 PM

It was never about the scouter on his face.

Vegeta (Scouter) was named for the scouter in his heart.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#85220: Jul 18th 2018 at 1:11:40 PM

Gohan isn't gonna beat Kefla. The best he can do is a double ring out, but a full on defeat would be absurd.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#85221: Jul 18th 2018 at 1:15:06 PM

I was gonna say that Gohan using his full power would be stronger than a fusion, but Kale utterly trashed Blue Goku and Golden Frieza apparently, so yeah, he's likely not gonna fare well against Kefla.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#85222: Jul 18th 2018 at 1:15:37 PM

If he had kept up his training he prolly could but alas his slacking off has now really bitten him in the ass.

Huh who’s stronger now, Anime-Kale or Manga-Kale?

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 18th 2018 at 1:15:54 AM

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#85223: Jul 18th 2018 at 1:17:06 PM

That scene does bring up something interesting... how has Vegeta heard of the Kaioken?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#85224: Jul 18th 2018 at 1:19:01 PM

Kaio-what?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85225: Jul 18th 2018 at 1:28:58 PM

Seems like manga Kale is way stronger, since she was beating Mastered Blue Goku and Golden Freeza. It's not clear if Anilaza is the same strength between versions, but if he is, and Kale even beat him, manga Kale seems like she's as strong as anime Kafla. The weird this is that Vegeta vs Beerus showed that the gap between Mastered Blue and God of Destruction is wide but not absurd. If Kale is already stronger than Mastered Blue and growing even stronger, a Potara fusion involving her should be significantly stronger than the Gods of Destruction. Either Gohan surpassed Beerus by training with Piccolo off-screen, or Kafla is about to wreck his shit.


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