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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#85001: Jul 13th 2018 at 10:10:55 PM

Okay I have to say I’ve been getting a disturbed feeling due to noticing how there’s a rather elitist vibe going on from Broly haters.

Like how apparently Broly fans are a bunch of casuals who are dragging DB down due to Toriyama placating them for easy shillings.

Honestly I’ve been seeing more toxicity from the Broly haters than the actual Broly fans despite the latter supposedly being the ones who I keep hearing are the really toxic fans.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#85002: Jul 13th 2018 at 10:31:52 PM

I keep thinking back to when I was a child, and a kid was ranting at me that Broly is actually a fantastic character because he had nothing while Goku was pampered and spoiled, completely unprompted and I had no idea who Broly even was. Seems like you're not seeing much ravenous Broly fanboys because there's not that many here. Apparently some Broly fans in other places were angry at Toriyama forgetting about him and changing him. One even saying that Broly was the best part of pre-Dragon Ball Super, and Toriyama forgetting about him proves he's a senile hack.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 13th 2018 at 10:33:21 AM

ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
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#85003: Jul 14th 2018 at 12:19:20 AM

My opinion on Broly changed over the years. Sort of.

Me in my childhood: Oh man! This Broly guy is awesome! He's so much fun to watch kick ass!

Me as a teenager: Oh man. Broly has such a lame backstory and is totally flat as a character. Broly is lame.

Me as an adult: Oh! Man, I don't watch Dragon Ball for the character development! Broly is so much fun to watch kick ass! He's awesome!

I'm honestly a bit scared they might try to change his backstory too much. Broly needs no motivation, he's there to run wild and beat shit up.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Jul 14th 2018 at 3:19:06 PM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#85004: Jul 14th 2018 at 12:23:32 AM

There's not much character development to watch for in the first place.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#85005: Jul 14th 2018 at 5:31:55 AM

Can't you just ignore whatever backstory the new film gives him then?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#85006: Jul 14th 2018 at 6:50:23 AM

Honestly I’ve been seeing more toxicity from the Broly haters than the actual Broly fans despite the latter supposedly being the ones who I keep hearing are the really toxic fans.

This wouldn't surprise me actually. fan haters can get just as toxic as overzealous fans because they feel they must shut down said overzealous fans at every opportunity.

Seems like you're not seeing much ravenous Broly fanboys because there's not that many here. Apparently some Broly fans in other places were angry at Toriyama forgetting about him and changing him. One even saying that Broly was the best part of pre-Dragon Ball Super, and Toriyama forgetting about him proves he's a senile hack.

They do remember Toriyama never created Broly in the first place right outside of drawing him for the movie don't they?

Me as an adult: Oh! Man, I don't watch Dragon Ball for the character development! Broly is so much fun to watch kick ass! He's awesome!

This. So much this. It's how I've kinda always seen Broly. It's how he should be.

I'm honestly a bit scared they might try to change his backstory too much. Broly needs no motivation, he's there to run wild and beat shit up.

Honestly, Broly's simply motivations should be right up Toriyama's alley. Why are any of his villains the way they are. Most are pretty simple and petty:

  • Pilaf wanted to rule the world;
  • Red wanted to be taller (and didn't care who died to accomplish this);
  • King Piccolo was literally Made of Evil and just wanted everyone to suffer.
  • Vegeta was an elitist who wanted immortality
  • Frieza was a sadistic bully who actually did rule the universe by virtue of being the biggest dog in the yard
  • Cell wanted to show everyone how great he was
  • Buu was a child who either didn't know any better, did know better and did it anyway, or in the end, didn't care and just rampaged about.

If he gets the appeal of Broly, then he doesn't have to change up his methods too much. Just give him a better motivation and that's it.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 14th 2018 at 7:50:24 AM

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#85007: Jul 14th 2018 at 6:57:22 AM

From that blurry sticker of Broly, it looks like He's wearing a bit of the Frieza Force armor.

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#85008: Jul 14th 2018 at 6:01:18 PM

Calling Toriyama a senile hack? Really? Call him a hack, sure, but senility isn't really something someone can control (not that he actually is)

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#85009: Jul 14th 2018 at 7:36:51 PM

Yea, that seems to be excessive.

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#85010: Jul 14th 2018 at 7:40:40 PM

Motomu Toriyama, on the other hand, I question his senility at times.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#85011: Jul 14th 2018 at 8:01:09 PM

Okay Hit actually said the donut line in the anime.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 14th 2018 at 8:02:42 AM

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#85012: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:01:22 AM

On Masako's video from the previous page, he doesn't seem to realize that there's a fairly standard monomyth arc in the Tournament of Power Arc. It's just that the character making the Hero's Journey is Android 17, not Goku; Goku's supposed to be the wise old mentor figure ala Gandalf or Obi-Wan Kenobi in that story.

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#85013: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:13:40 AM

He needs a beard, clearly

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#85014: Jul 15th 2018 at 8:55:31 AM

Honestly, I'd be down for that. It was a good look for him. Would make Goku look more his age.

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#85015: Jul 15th 2018 at 10:41:05 AM

Goku is only in his 40s tho

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#85016: Jul 15th 2018 at 10:42:22 AM

Eh, old enough for beard

Vegeta would rock one better tho

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#85017: Jul 15th 2018 at 10:42:49 AM

And Goku not looking his age is intentional anyway.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#85018: Jul 15th 2018 at 10:44:45 AM

As is Goku not acting his age.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85019: Jul 15th 2018 at 10:48:32 AM

If Vegeta grew a beard, how could we tell Vegeta from Vegeta?

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#85020: Jul 15th 2018 at 11:04:01 AM

The same way we tell Vegeta from Vegeta.

One is still around, the other is long gone.

Edited by Cross on Jul 15th 2018 at 2:12:24 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85021: Jul 15th 2018 at 11:09:38 AM

People said that about Freeza and Broly and now look where we are

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#85022: Jul 15th 2018 at 5:14:05 PM

A better look at Broli's base form redesign (in the Freeza armor) has been revealed in a figure form. It's apart of the upcoming Dragon Ball stature releases at Jump Carnival.

Along with a clearer look at his Berserker state.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jul 15th 2018 at 8:15:29 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#85023: Jul 15th 2018 at 5:19:56 PM

And so the Legend finally reveals himself in full.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#85024: Jul 15th 2018 at 5:21:57 PM

So Broly's new Super Saiyan form has no color to it? And his eyes become yellow. Interesting

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#85025: Jul 15th 2018 at 5:40:09 PM

No, that's his base form.

His Super Saiyan form looks about the same as ever.


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