I think one of the coolest aspects of Broly was that his sheer power was actually causing him to go insane- it's brief but there's a moment in where Broly wakes up with his power dormant (having just been asleep) before it slowly awakens and takes over right before Paragus puts on the mind control/power limiter.
I hope that is expanded upon.
"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-MaeLess hatred about Broly, more this is going to be Ro F all over again.
Well, out side of his craziness, Broly wasn't that great.
I loved how he absolutely pasted the heroes when he fought them (it's a very different kind of brutality from Freeza, who's deliberately trying to drag it out), but the guy is just obsessed with....
But we'll see. I'm willing to watch how this plays out. I honestly don't think Broly could get any worse.
One Strip! One Strip!Yeah. Minus is the only case of Toriyama writing a character he didn't make, and it's not well liked.
But as I said, history doesn't have to repeat. Toriyama might create a Broly people actually like.
Gotta see how this plays out baby.
And if I'm wrong, then it's not like I'm not usually full of shit anyway, so no love for TVT is there?
One Strip! One Strip!On Broly's character and hatedom - movie 8 was one of the more cinematic movies, and he had a pretty cool design and fun, boisterous personality as he smacked people around.
His backstory was shit and some more interesting things about him weren't used much - such as his similarities to Sun Wukong, or Koyama's intended theme of being a solitary, isolated fighter (he was literally Jiren before Jiren, I'll dig the interview up for that later).
On top of that, he didn't have much character and what he did have was reduced to being a caricature of himself for subsequent appearances. I don't think even hulk-Broly is awful but he can't carry three films that way.
Combine that with the vocal minority of utterly obnoxious Broly fans and the Wolverine Publicity he received - I think people have every right to be sick of seeing Broly in things. That's not excusing taking it to Hate Dumb levels though.
Given how Frost was handled after Freeza came back for the TOP, I also think that this means Kale shouldn't expect to be relevant when we have the original Broly around. I doubt Toriyama wants him to survive more than one film, so there's that.
I'm at least interested to see how they tie this into the lore, and if Kale's form will be further explained as a result.
Minus was bad, and its existence is still confusing. I don't really know why it exists beyond tying in to Jaco.
Minus was such a nothing chapter that I wouldn't use it to set expectations for Broly. This is more similar to Goku Black, where the idea was suggested to Toriyama and he ran with it.
Edited by Saiga on Jul 10th 2018 at 12:33:22 AM
I recall Broly having some of the more interesting fight choreography in the movies
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSidenote: Cards from these NA machines can't be used on Japanese machines, and vice versa.
It was a plot point in the goofier Dragon Ball days that Goku becomes practically useless in colder climates. Or at least in the Red Ribbon arc.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSo, I wake up and now Broly is the villain of movie 20.
...Sure why not. Toriyama's rewriting his backstory and character, maybe he can be salvaged. You know, if Broly really was frozen in ice, it's possible that the whole "he's the Legendary Super Saiyan" thing might still happen. Like, those dumb misconceptions that Broly was the original Legendary Super Saiyan in the original movie might turn out to be real now.
Honestly, Broly is only my least favorite movie villain for real world reasons rather than anything to do with his movies. He's kinda exactly the same as every other movie villain, minus Beerus, so him being in a new (canon (for what that's worth)) movie doesn't bother me.
Beerus getting chummed does bother me.

broly looks cool, and him absolutely beating the crap out of everyone so hard was awesome. its just his backstory was shit. and it could have been better. like for the new broly have freeza revive him/free him from ice, and tell him beerus destroyed planet vegeta and send him after him. yeah its not great but its better than this weeks old baby cried when i was a baby and kept me up