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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84576: Jun 27th 2018 at 6:26:25 PM

Hey, suppose you were redoing the Shadow Dragons saga so that the entire cast got involved in the fights instead of just Goku (with occasional Pan assist). Say that it's super time sensitive or something and we need to split up. Which characters would you have fight which dragon?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84577: Jun 27th 2018 at 9:44:00 PM

Hypothetically?

The Loser Squad (Tien, Krillin, 18, ect.) vs. Haze.
Trunks vs. Rage, with Bulma there. She's mother to both of them, after all.
Uub vs. Oceanus.
Gohan and Pan vs. Naturon.
Goku and Vegeta vs. Nuova and Eis respectively, crosses over when Eis tries to ditch Vegeta and fuck with Goku's duel. And then Syn shows up regardless.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84578: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:18:17 PM

How is 18 part of the loser squad?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84579: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:42:45 PM

Silly Rob, everybody becomes part of the Loser Squad when they're not a Saiyan. At best they can temporarily escape the epicenter with a bullshit power-up, like Piccolo and Uub, but they passed the event horizon a long time ago and inevitably get sucked back.

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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#84580: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:42:53 PM

The Loser Squad should consist of Tien, Yamcha, and Roshi, Goten should fight Rage with Trunks, and Krillan and 18 join Uub against Oceanus.

EDIT: Wait, completely forgot Piccolo! Joins Gohan and Pan against Naturon.

Edited by UdtheImp on Jun 27th 2018 at 1:44:28 PM

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#84581: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:43:37 PM

Battle Couple

Since nobody else in Dragon Ball can

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84582: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:50:46 PM

[up][up]Piccolo's dead, UdtheImp! He's deeeeeaaaaaaaaaaad!!!

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#84583: Jun 27th 2018 at 11:32:21 PM

I don't even think Roshi should be used again (IIRC he stayed retired in GT). I think a Tien+Yamcha combo would be sufficient, a Loser Duo if you will.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#84584: Jun 28th 2018 at 12:52:31 AM

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Toss Vegeta in the loser squad too, since he's the King of the Jobbers.

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#84585: Jun 28th 2018 at 4:50:24 AM

One thing that would've been fun in the Tournament of Power would be if the Zenos rooted for different people during the tournament instead of always being enraptured by whatever cool thing is happening next. Have Present Zeno root for Goku while Future Zeno cheers on Jiren, etc.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84586: Jun 28th 2018 at 5:48:26 AM

Hey, suppose you were redoing the Shadow Dragons saga so that the entire cast got involved in the fights instead of just Goku (with occasional Pan assist). Say that it's super time sensitive or something and we need to split up. Which characters would you have fight which dragon?

This is the exact premise I thought of for how I'd rewrite GT (actually, I started thinking about that again very recently). My divisions were

  • Haze - Pan, Bra, Giru. Pan is the muscle and Bra/Giru figure out Haze's weakness.
  • Rage - Goten & Trunks/Gotenks
  • Naturon - Oob
  • Oceanus - Gohan
  • Nuova - Goku
  • Eis - Has a similar role with Goku until the cheap shot and then Vegeta to the rescue
  • Syn - has a similar role, maybe fights Vegeta earlier

There's really no need to get the humans involved when the active cast is already large enough to cover the dragons and they've been completely retired at this point.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84587: Jun 28th 2018 at 11:22:44 AM

How do you do Naturon's fake-out absorption with only one opponent? I feel like him going from silly, ineffectual mole dude to sudden physical and emotional threat is too important to leave out.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#84588: Jun 28th 2018 at 12:15:04 PM

Naturon worked well with Pan/Goku honestly. tongue

18 could work vs Haze. Nanomachines son!

Edited by alekos23 on Jun 28th 2018 at 10:15:29 PM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84589: Jun 28th 2018 at 2:01:45 PM

[up][up] Ah shit I thought it was Rage who did that (hence Goten/Trunks). I'd probably swap those then.

Swapping Gohan and Oob around and adding Pan to the Naturon fight would also work (after beating Haze), but I don't want Pan being used as a damsel as she was so often in GT.

Maybe I'd complicate things more by having characters get involved in each others' fights so things aren't so evenly distributed.

Also, I did think of a purpose for the loser squads - they could go after Syn and Eis originally, and one loser squad could take the place of Pan as a hostage in Goku vs Eis.

I've been thinking lately that I want to actually start writing my GT rewrite idea.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#84590: Jun 28th 2018 at 2:11:10 PM

Maybe Vegeta/Trunks vs Naturon?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84591: Jun 28th 2018 at 2:13:35 PM

So would you keep most of the Shadow Dragons as is or would you change/rework them?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#84592: Jun 28th 2018 at 3:22:34 PM

Keep. There's no rime or reason as to why they're as strong as they are besides the need to give our heroes a challenge, so they might as well stay the way they are for the weaker characters to beat.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#84593: Jun 28th 2018 at 4:06:31 PM

That was weird, I was in different accounts for a moment there, and the forum didn't exist. Anyone else feel that?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84594: Jun 28th 2018 at 4:09:07 PM

I saw that happen & a used draft still keeps appearing every damn time I try to form a new post.

Also I still can't save drafts.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 28th 2018 at 4:10:39 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84595: Jun 28th 2018 at 4:23:28 PM

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The entire place disappeared on me too.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84596: Jun 28th 2018 at 4:26:00 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Keep the dragons, but re-work aspects of them.

Connecting them to individual wishes doesn't make sense with the number of wishes that have been made with them. And honestly, it's not that important beyond the gag with Oceanus.

I tried tying it to the times Shenron was summoned to account for multi-wishes, but it is still too many.

So instead I grouped together any wishes made in the same year (ignoring the RRA plothole). God's Shenron has had two occasions where circumstances allowed it to be re-used before a full year is up - when God revives Shenron, and when God is revived in the Namek arc.

That leaves us with 6 Shadow Dragons, so it just takes one more set of wishes in the plot of GT to give us 7. Then, they'd be arranged according to the strength of the dragon - the sets of 3 wishes in one year create the strongest dragons, 2 in one year is mid tier, and the weakest are born from 1 wish.

I think I'd do Goten/Trunks vs Rage and have Trunks be the one absorbed so Goten has to fight without fusion and to balance against Trunks having more focus earlier in the series.

Edited by Saiga on Jun 28th 2018 at 9:26:04 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84597: Jun 28th 2018 at 4:32:07 PM

I just dislike the designs for some of them.

Like the pollution dragon one. I never liked his squat green dragon look.

Makes him look like a typical unimportant animal/mook which is way uncool.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84599: Jun 28th 2018 at 9:21:03 PM

I think I'd do Goten/Trunks vs Rage and have Trunks be the one absorbed so Goten has to fight without fusion and to balance against Trunks having more focus earlier in the series.

Goten sure could use that huh. Poor guy got hit hard with the sidekick stick, just like Puar and Chiaotzu before him.

Sure, he's more notable, but you could argue Puar's done more than him. And Chiaotzu is a complete non issue.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#84600: Jun 30th 2018 at 2:27:08 PM

@Saiga:I kinda like how the most moral dragon was born from the most selfish wish.

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