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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#84551: Jun 22nd 2018 at 4:49:30 PM

That makes Sorbert 2.0 perhaps the longest lasting Freeza Force member, given he's been around since at least 737 and didn't die on Namek(762) or Earth(779)

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84554: Jun 22nd 2018 at 5:34:06 PM

I have to say I miss Zarbon, as well as the Ginyu's, Hell even Dodoria.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84555: Jun 22nd 2018 at 5:37:56 PM

I really like that coat on Goku. I also love that's he's back in his old school gi. The two go really well together.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84556: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:39:37 PM

I like Goku and Vegeta's new coats, though blue and green are odd main colors for Goku and Vegeta respectively. I've always associated orange with Goku, blue with Vegeta, and green with Gohan (despite the fact that Gohan's most known outfits are orange or purple, and he's worn green maybe once in his life).

I feel like there has to be some reason they're not out and saying that Chelye, Lemo, and Kokono are in Freeza's army. Instead, they focus on the fact that both Chelye and Lemo have Scouters and guns, and Kokono has Freeza Soldier armor.

edited 22nd Jun '18 6:39:50 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84557: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:42:42 PM

Gohan's first outfit and Boo arc outfit were both coloured green in the coloured images of the manga, then there's the Great Saiyaman outfit. I'd say green is a good colour for him.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84558: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:45:02 PM

I was actually thinking of the 'F' tracksuit, forgot about the Great Saiyaman.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84559: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:30:00 PM

Okay, so I've been thinking about something. It took Krillin and Gohan multiple days to reach Guru's place after Krillin got his potential unlocked. Vegeta was angry about Gohan taking his Dragon Ball and was searching for them for days, right? Doesn't Guru's potential unlock draw out more hidden power over time? Krillin had his potential unlocked for multiple days on end, and it was only after that that he went from 10,000 to 75,000 in what, a couple hours?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84560: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:32:18 PM

Did it take days? I don't know if that was mentioned, plus the sun doesn't ever go down in Namek.

Maybe because he's human, it took longer for it to start coming out, until the fighting began and he actually needed it...though not quickly enough to beat the Ginyu.

One Strip! One Strip!
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#84561: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:44:16 PM

Basically, 75'000 is an informed attribute and never matters at any part of the story as far as I know.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#84562: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:57:20 PM

I was reading the first "Z" volume of the manga, and never realized that Nappa actually suggested that he and Vegeta whip up a bunch of kids on Earth because they figured Saiyan/human hybrids were super strong from what they heard about Gohan. And considering how those two were, you can guess how they'd go about "propagating"...

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#84563: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:59:21 PM

I know that rape is suggested there, but considering Vegeta was able to get Bulma to shack up with him with him basically not changing his attitude at all (aside from not actively trying to destroy Earth) they probably could have found willing participants.

Interestingly, that's also the first mention of the term Super Saiyan, though it is spelt differently in the Japanese to the real deal later on. I think DBZA might have even thrown out a reference to that, but I'm not sure.

edited 22nd Jun '18 10:00:35 PM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84564: Jun 23rd 2018 at 4:24:55 AM

Okay, I've done some thinking. Kale is a very different character between the anime and manga, and I think there's a good middle ground there. I think Kale in the anime is a fantastic character, but there are a couple things from the manga that might make her better. How about this:

Kale is like in the anime, but remove the Yandere angle. She still is in lesbians with Caulifla, just replace the jealousy aspect of her transformation with protectiveness. She still has the self-hatred (which I feel is more important to who she is than the Yandere part anyway). She is aware that she has a massive well of power deep within her, and she hates and fears that part of herself, looping back into the self-hatred.

Basically, the way to improve Kale is to make her even more like the Hulk than she already was.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#84565: Jun 23rd 2018 at 5:48:29 AM

The more I think about it the more the giant planet as an arena would make sense, as well as scattering the team members though it. Makes escaping and holding out more feasible, combat less messy and if you want to keep the Potara fusion and justify other teams not using them, just show none of their team found each other.

Team 11 would be to regroup and do not engage with opponents, team 9 would be to find any teammate you can and then group up on singular enemies, team 10 would have no strategies whatsoever, team 4 would be using their trickery and evading direct combat, team 2 would be for the Kamikaze Fireballs to regroup and nothing else and team 3 is for Aniraza parts to regroup and do battle analysis in the meantime. Team 6 and 7 is basically stick together, but the team members just do their own thing.

Those strategies are somewhat in use in the anime, but they make no sense when they are constantly fighting each other and holding back makes no sense in that scenario. Super also frames it like only one battle happens at a time and try to make it seem like there are multiple conflicts by drawing a few explosions, but it made no sense. Multiple battles happening at once makes it a mess, and the Zenos also comment like they're only seeing one battle at a time, plus with the scale of their attacks they should be knocking into each other.

edited 23rd Jun '18 5:48:46 AM by Ikedatakeshi

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#84566: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:40:46 PM

Adult Swim is permanently replacing King of the Hill's weekday 8pm EST timeslot with reruns of Super, starting from its first episode on July 2nd. New premieres are still airing on Saturdays at its usual 10:30pm EST timeslot.

For those wanting the early 2000s experience of binging a "new" Dragon Ball series daily, this is the closest you'll get. And hey, it's anime on a primetime slot.


[up]x2: Much like my opinion of Super in general, I totally agree that a merger of the two versions would be great. To quote from one of my Discord friends:
One that's actually got skills, but not confident in them. Especially when in front of Caulifla. But is capable when she's not thinking about it ([similar to Manga Kale's takedown of Darkori]) so in a rush to help her sis, she doesn't have time to think about if she can beat her opponent, she just does it.

[up]While I do like the planet idea, it would also have a massive ripple effect of changing the nature of tournament's rules and mechanics (namely the ideal out-of-bounds ringouts), and probably how observation is done. The TOP's pretty much 8(0)-player Smash, so I can imagine a similar design mindset of a flat surface as a foundation, but having worldly terrain and obstacles to liven things up (which both mediums are trying to).

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jun 26th 2018 at 4:41:20 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84567: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:57:30 PM

Okay so watched End of Z I gotta ask, why is everyone especially Pan treating Goku's training of Uub as him going to some unreachable place & leaving them forever?

He's not going back to Otherworld, he's just going to another country but like they can reach him easy. Goku can teleport for one, everyone has a plane, & most of the cast can fly on their own power.

Hell just the previous episode Pan bragged that she could circle the entire planet in less than 5 minutes. What's stopping her from going to Goku exactly?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#84568: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:59:04 PM

That is a bit weird isn't it. Though there does seem to be a sort of running theme where people act like they can't just come visit Goku whenever they want; he has to be the one to come to them, for some reason.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#84569: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:59:46 PM

By the same token why does Goku have to live with Uub to train him? He can just teleport over there every day.

This song needs more love.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84571: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:04:26 PM

Its pretty much unnecessary drama if you could call it that.

The entire treatment & character actions is just illogical.

Goku can train Uub but that doesn't mean he shouldn't stop seeing his family at all & his family shouldn't treat his going to train Uub as him going away forever.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84572: Jun 27th 2018 at 12:45:12 AM

AnimeAjay breaks down the new movie character sheets.

He noticed some stuff that I would never have, like Vegeta's hair in relation to his ears.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84573: Jun 27th 2018 at 4:14:45 AM

[up][up][up][up] 24/7 punching Oob's face in until he gets strong enough

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#84575: Jun 27th 2018 at 12:56:28 PM

And yet out of character at the same time.

"Mai waifu."

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