Frieza got a lot saner meditating in Hell. I'm wondering why he didn't try to do so the first time he was there. It would at least be better than having to watch saccharine cuteness forever. Hmm..I also wonder how long Frieza tried to blast his way out of the cocoon, and what smug "The Reason You Suck" Speech King Yemma reserved for when he finally croaked
Other questions about Hell-did Vegeta go to Hell the first time he died, or did he not have enough time to be processed before he was brought back to life with the Namekian Dragonballs? When he asks if he's going there, he doesn't act like he's already been in Hell. Or was he just confident he had enough of a Heel–Face Turn that he didn't have to go back? If Zamasu was killed instead of being made Deader than Dead, how would his divine nature affect his existence in Hell because Kaioshin basically live in the afterlife anyway. I wonder if that's part of why Beerus Hakai'd him rather than just kill him outright-his divine nature makes normal deadness a hassle
I imagine Vegeta thought that maybe sacrificing himself would be enough to get him out of hell. Kind of a "Have I done enough of a Heel–Face Turn to avoid hell?" The answer was no: Vegeta may have improved over the person he used to be, but he's still got a lot of negative karma to get past.
As for Zamasu: when Old Kai gave up his life to Goku in Z, he basically just fell asleep for a few seconds before waking up with a halo. He didn't seem to go through any kind of processing or judgement. And he was still able to visit the mortal universe without issue before being revived by the dragon.
So, Beerus's hakai was probably necessary to put down an evil Kaioshin.
about the Super manga: Obuni does nothing, and Gohan eliminates him with one punch. There's only two pages dedicated to Obuni's locket and U10's erasure. Kafla doesn't happen, Goku and Vegeta eliminate Caulifla, Kale, and Cabba together in a beam struggle. The Saiyan girls never even go to Super Saiyan 2. Gohan beats Pirina and Saonel with little difficulty and with no fanfare or drama. Roshi beats Ganos and straight-up dies from the effort. Goku is sad about Roshi while U4 is erased in the background. Koichiarator still happens, but Anilaza doesn't, and Koichiarator is the only new Godly opponent from any universe that isn't 11. Gohan still beats Koichiarator pretty easily.
Dyspo and Freeza fight. Dyspo starts taking a slight advantage and Gohan immediately grabs him from behind and rings out both of them without even trying to fight Dyspo. Absolutely nothing dramatic is done with God Toppo, he just starts using the Hakai with no emotional trigger or transformation and it doesn't make him any stronger. Vegeta still beats him up using Perfect SSB, and it's even more melodramatic than it was before. Toppo eliminates Freeza, and the final battle is Goku and Vegeta vs Jiren while 17 is unconscious underneath some rocks. Ultra Instinct appears for the first time in the final battle against Jiren, and it only serves to kick Jiren's ass for a bit before it craps out.
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Look, I really want it to be good, but all my hopes that it will be have been thoroughly destroyed. The only hope I have left is that maybe the U2 men will have some kind of cool last stand unique to the manga, since they can't transform with the power of love anymore.
I'm not fully comfortable with the order of events in the anime, and since I've been writing up plans for a movie version of this arc, I've been really hoping that the manga could give me something different to work with to contrast the anime and give me ideas, but all of the changes made so far have been utter shit. Oh well, at least it's a good blueprint for what not to do.
I kind of expect Buu was reincarnated not just as a favor, but that not even Hell can safely contain him. Given what he is, I don't expect him to follow the same afterlife rules as mortal beings
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I have a very hard time believing that when you show up to make unsolicited pessimistic assumptions. The fact that you're adding opinions in on why this stuff is bad before it happens is very telling that you're taking the worst assumptions possible. Some of that doesn't even sound likely.
I do think it's quite likely that Kafla and Anilaza are anime only, because those two things really feel like Toei additions. The whole 'everyone can use potara now, but nobody else does' thing feels like an excuse for Toei to include Kafla without having potara impact the rest of the tournament. I think she could be in the manga though, since Toyotarou was the one who suggested Vegetto being in the manga.
But Anilaza I highly doubt. Everything about him is so random and immediately pointless, like his ability to fly, swallow people or his portals. None of it was used creatively and it just came down to a big beam struggle. Furthermore, his appearance makes the entire fight before it and Gohan's character moment pointless, since no-one got eliminated and Anilaza is just stronger than his components without no apparent drawback. Finally, he exists in a really weird space where Jiren is meant to be the big antagonist but he never fights as large or fresh a group as Universe 7 vs Anilaza, so much of his fight feels nowhere near as climactic.
Will you be posting the Abridged Coola clip?
It's actually been a while since anyone used that joke on the forum...though that's probably because they are sick of it.
One Strip! One Strip!Was Frieza's No-Holds-Barred Beatdown at the hands of SSJ Goku so bad that it gave him PTSD? That's what his character page says.
Why do you think so?
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That vision of SSJ Karrot is anime only then?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I'm sad that RF didn't have him meet Goten and Trunks, who were chibi versions of both people who wrecked his shit.
I'm also sad that Super had them meet but wasted it by Freeza instantly determining who they were. It would've been funny if he assumed both of them got de-aged somehow.
Or just assumed that the present Trunks was the future Trunks' son. And I wouldn't be out of the blue because of how Identical Grandson is common. Vegeta and King Vegeta, Goku, Young Goten and Bardock, even King Cold is just a bigger and older 2nd form Frieza with a pallette swap and clothes
Identical Grandson and Mini me children is pretty common in this series.
In addition to the examples you just mentioned, there's also Pan and Bra, who become spitting images of their moms when they grow old enough.
Marron is quite literally the only kid in the series who doesn't look identical to one of her parents, and that's because said parents have such drastically different character designs.
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So Conan's Clueless Gamer took a look at Dragonball Legends...
Guess what ensued?
Though I really wish they hadn't made the Goku is a bad dad joke.
Also, so of you might never look at Majin Buu the same way again after this.
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