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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#84426: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:29:40 AM

Movie 13?

Do you mean...Dragon Ball Z (Movie 13): Wrath of the Dragon?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#84428: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:50:20 AM

Ah, yes. I like that one too, is good.

Worthless Veggie and all.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84429: Jun 13th 2018 at 7:04:47 AM

Even though he mostly shows up to get smacked down, the scene where he gets taken out because he prioritized protecting a bunch of civilians is a pretty nice moment for him.

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#84430: Jun 13th 2018 at 10:26:52 AM

I think the first two arcs of Super have something worth watching. For one, if you skip them you have no context for the Hakai. For another, you miss out on some of the all-time best filler episodes in the show, such as Vegeta, Bulma, and Trunks going to an amusement park, Super Satan, and Vegeta cooking for Whis.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#84431: Jun 13th 2018 at 11:53:23 AM

If you were just going to watch for filler then you might as well watch the original Z.

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#84432: Jun 13th 2018 at 1:06:26 PM

You know, the upcoming Heroes anime may be giving us SSB Goku vs SS4 Goku, but the real Super vs GT fight I want to see is Android 17 from the Tournament of Power vs Super 17.

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#84433: Jun 13th 2018 at 1:13:34 PM

As strong as they need to be VS Weaker than Goku. Truly the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny.

edited 13th Jun '18 1:14:09 PM by Zelenal

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#84434: Jun 13th 2018 at 2:12:25 PM

[up] You could dump super 17 into the "strong as he needs to be" place as well, true he got the energy absorption to boost his powers...but then he gets destroyed by a worn down goku

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84435: Jun 13th 2018 at 2:27:34 PM

Huh I have to say the Black Arc isn't very good.

Starts out good with a lot of tension but afterwards it becomes really repetitive as in "go to future, get ass kicked, run with tail between out legs, go back to future, get our asses, run with tail between our legs" several times.

Plus there's not much to care. I now realize that Super fucked up Future Trunks because his original purpose was to be a messenger, to prevent bad stuff from happening in the protagonists world. By bringing us to his world it's hard to care what's happening because it's so literally fucked there's no hope to fix it, pretty sure humanity is pretty much extinct at this point.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#84436: Jun 13th 2018 at 2:34:29 PM

...Have you seen the entire arc?

I mean, have you watched the original version?

I'm just wondering, since if you haven't it's a big spoiler, so I need to know first.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#84437: Jun 13th 2018 at 2:40:17 PM

Dude Toonami.

It's fresh on my mind.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84438: Jun 13th 2018 at 5:50:43 PM

While I enjoy the Black arc, I do agree that there's just too much repetition in its plot and it definitely could've used at least one less iteration of "heroes think they've defeated Black, he turns out to be not only fine but stronger than ever before, they go back to the present to find a way to defeat him," maybe two. There are parts of the plot, especially as it went on, that definitely could have been fused together, as well. After a while, the story's addiction to "twists" and fakeouts began to feel more like padding, honestly.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84439: Jun 13th 2018 at 5:56:09 PM

Well, that's mainly in the anime. The manga does do better in that department, in that it keeps the number of trips to the future to a minimum (though it makes Black and Zamasu much weaker, and has the heroes figure out who Black really is much easier as well).

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84440: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:02:01 PM

The number of times they went to the future never felt excessive to me.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84441: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:05:18 PM

They should have given Black & Zamasu the ability to some way affect the past so they feel more like an immediate threat.

Cause after Beerus Hakaied Present Zamasu they could have easily washed their hands of the whole thing & be done with it.

As honestly Future Trunks world is a lost cause. Their's nothing to save or protect anymore.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84442: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:07:45 PM

That Yajirobe direspect. Stone cold, dude.

edited 13th Jun '18 6:08:00 PM by Moth13

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84443: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:09:38 PM

Super officially made Future Trunks the Cable of the Dragonball series. In that no matter what happens, no matter how hard he tries, his future is always fucked. The reason may change, but the end result is always the same.

I half expect them to eventually have an arc where one of the two Trunkses comes back to the past, talking about how some threat killed the other one and forced him to come back. Again.

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#84444: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:56:41 PM

I just realized that the meteor Beerus said he used to wipe out the dinosaurs is probably the same one Arale deflected when she went back in time.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#84445: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:57:47 PM

That would explain why there are still plenty of dinos in the dragon world.

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#84447: Jun 13th 2018 at 8:10:37 PM

[up]x6 Black affecting the past wasn't really needed especially since you would need to come up with a way to prevent Beerus from just Hakaing him. I mean Black has already shown he is going to murder gods, Beerus wouldn't take a threat like that lying down, plus you would have to come up with a reason why Beerus can't do the same to affect the future and deal with Black.

Plus Trunks Future wasn't a lost cause until they decided to make Black and Zamasu Villain sues who could always come out on top. It's especially prevalent with the Zamasu merging with the universe thing, that just seems like a shocking twist for the sake of it, and also seems like the point where they wrote themselves into a corner. Personally Spirit Sword should have finished off Zamasu and ended the arc.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84448: Jun 13th 2018 at 8:19:58 PM

The humans in Future Trunks's are just a handful of people living in a cave or two.

At that point life is already done with them, all that's left is just to kill the 2 assholes to deny them any more satisfaction & so the last remnant of humanity can die out with some measure of peace.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84449: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:02:20 AM

I don't think they were meant to go anywhere truthfully. He might be looking too deep.

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#84450: Jun 14th 2018 at 2:30:06 PM

That's kind of his gimmick.

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