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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#84401: Jun 11th 2018 at 5:40:31 PM

Indeed. tongue

Everyone knows that DBZ characters can one shot everyone and it is the strongest manga universe ever......tongue

"Mai waifu."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84403: Jun 11th 2018 at 5:49:54 PM

Can anyone fix a planet?

Cause really destroying a planet is fucking child's play but putting one back together piece by piece, now that's real man's work right there. [awesome]

edited 11th Jun '18 5:50:03 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#84404: Jun 11th 2018 at 5:52:21 PM

A Kaiou and presumably everyone greater than them can.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84405: Jun 11th 2018 at 5:53:53 PM

Kami can recreate the moon with magic, and supposedly making new planets is the job of Kaioshin.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#84406: Jun 11th 2018 at 5:56:23 PM

[up] West Kaiou remade his own planet after Beerus blew it up.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84407: Jun 11th 2018 at 5:57:35 PM

Can they fix one while its on the verge of a breakdown?

Like its literally falling apart at the seams & will possibly detonate.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84408: Jun 11th 2018 at 5:59:19 PM

[up][up]North Kaio. Wrong quadrant, but fair point. The moon is larger than his planet, but considering Kaio's planet's mass, it's a greater feat.

edited 11th Jun '18 6:00:17 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#84409: Jun 11th 2018 at 6:03:23 PM

The fact the entire trailer is just Naruto, Luffy, and Goku just wailing on Frieza in the middle of a ruined Times Square entertains me to no end.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84410: Jun 11th 2018 at 6:24:50 PM

@Moth that comic/template is great

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84411: Jun 11th 2018 at 6:29:37 PM

Far too many people consider who can beat up who the only benchmark of quality

These people never grew out of the "my dad can beat up your dad" stage of childhood

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#84412: Jun 11th 2018 at 6:31:01 PM

You aren't wrong. Far too many trolls and "regular" fanboys make up this fanbase.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84413: Jun 11th 2018 at 6:35:54 PM

This is true, although to be fair, strength is measured in DB mainly via who can beat up who.

That and characters being hyped up as incredibly strong (either through words, or through beating up someone else) in order to make them being beat up by someone look impressive.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84414: Jun 11th 2018 at 8:32:36 PM

Man, reading through the Dragon Ball Wikia can be such a trip, there are so many absurd leaps in logic. For one, it says that Fused Zamasu growing giant is his version of Super Saiyan Grade 3.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84415: Jun 11th 2018 at 8:37:34 PM

The one thing I like about the Wikia is that Gogeta/Vegito and Gotenks are listed as father and son to each other under family relations.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#84416: Jun 11th 2018 at 9:33:00 PM

[up][up] I could actually see that, to be fair. Fused Zamasu is technically a Super Saiyan...

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#84417: Jun 11th 2018 at 9:34:15 PM

Well technically he was a version of Super Saiyan Blue.

So clearly this means that there is a grade 3 version of Blue that Goku and Vegeta haven't tapped into yet.

This song needs more love.
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#84418: Jun 11th 2018 at 9:36:06 PM

I would guess that Goku and Vegeta could beef up like that if they wanted, but they realized long ago the inherent weakness in doing that, so why would they?

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#84419: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:47:47 PM

[up]

There's a Doylist and Watsonian explanation for sticking to "just" Super Saiyan for Blue, if I remember right.

Also, did anyone check Masako X's new vid on Color Theory? I know I know, it's fan musings, but I love how (it turns out) red chakra (which he associates with Super Saiyan 4) is on the opposite side of blue and white chakra (which stands for both Blue and Ultra Instinct), and how it represents a more "earthly" and primal energy, which is different from the divine blue and white.

That said, backtracking to change God to "magenta" rather than Red... Anyway, nitpicks.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84420: Jun 12th 2018 at 9:02:59 PM

Can you elaborate more on what color theory is in this case?

tms_forever1 Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#84421: Jun 13th 2018 at 4:46:38 AM

Random question but, as someone who’s never really watched anything Dragon Ball looking to get into the show, like where do I even start? I have Fighterz (before you ask bought it because I played it at a friend’s house and it was really fun) and like it a lot and it’s made me want to watch the show.

But there’s so much! Should I just start with Z? Buy the Kai version on Amazon and start with that? I want to get into the show but there’s so many episodes and series it’s kinda overwhelming. What’s the best place to start?

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#84422: Jun 13th 2018 at 5:18:08 AM

The manga takes less time to read. Otherwise, original Dragon Ball, then Z Kai I'd say. Afterwards, Battle of the Gods, and if you want to continue, Resurrection F and Super from episode 27 onwards.

The rest is pretty much non-serial movies, and GT is pretty much alternate continuity.

tms_forever1 Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#84423: Jun 13th 2018 at 5:20:13 AM

Alright, thank you for the advice, I’ll follow that order than. ^^

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#84424: Jun 13th 2018 at 5:23:23 AM

Oh, and for the record, Fighter Z' story is pretty much set around the halfway point of Super

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84425: Jun 13th 2018 at 5:27:03 AM

Yes, the manga would be much faster to read - 42 volumes compared to 320 - 444 episodes of the anime to watch the original DB + Z or Kai. It's also a lot more consistent and well paced, if you attempt to watch the Z anime the pacing is molasses and you'll probably notice several of the Adaptation-Induced Plot Hole moments.

If you are going to watch the anime, then I'd definitely go with Kai over Z. Kai is just edited from Z footage, and they didn't do a great job of it, but it mostly fixes the pacing issues of Z and cuts 124 episodes of padding/filler. This is about the same amount of padding as in Dragon Ball Super.

You can watch the original movies as you go along - they don't fit into continuity, but they have their individual charms and some of the early ones have great choreography and animation. Movie 13 is still the one that stands out to me as feeling most like an actual movie.

My first reccomendation is to read the manga - I prefer it, I believe it's overall a better product and mainly it is just so much faster to go through. Hands down easiest way to avoid archive panic.


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