Hit is probably the weakest character. Since his laser beams pass through objects, did he even blow anything up? Androids would be the next weakest. Nappa is pretty strong. He blew up a city. He's tied with Omega Shenron, who also blew up a city. I think Goku Black blew up parts of a city, so he's weaker than both of them. Beerus blew up a planet a couple times, so he's on par with Frieza and Kid buu.
Anyway, I think I've found out who is the most undisputedly powerful character in Dragon Ball.
Dragon Ball Heroes exonerated.
edited 3rd Jun '18 8:03:20 PM by Moth13
People forget Goku and Bererus almost imploded the whole universe when they first clashed.
Growing up, it's like a civil war, don't turn away, it's something you can't ignore...Yeah that's not what Show, Don't Tell means, like at all. We've already got the examples from across the franchise that go against this logic (Beerus in BOG has some of the first feats in the series) as Moth pointed out, and I see no reason to pick on the Androids.
Vegeta actually mentions that his blast that 18 nonchalantly tanked could destroy the Earth. And he's stronger than the Goku that's stronger than the earlier Goku that's stronger than the Trunks' that's stronger than the Mecha Freeza that's stronger than the 100% Freeza that's stronger than the 70% Freeza that blew up Namek.
The Androids do use ki blasts in the future timeline, 18 blasts up a city because she was gamer raging. 18 also uses a Kienzan in the Boo arc. They don't use them much, but then they don't fight much to begin with.
This doesn't make sense to me. How could hitting someone with a mass of raw force NOT be dependent on the power of the person receiving said force? The Genki Dama is purely an attack move. It makes sense that it factors in the recipients' defense.
That's not the same thing at all. They're not the same characters because they haven't had the same experiences. The ones who died have never come back, which is the complete opposite of the scenario you tried to compare it to.
Otherwise Trunks wouldn't have any angst over Bulma dying the first time. He'd just be like 'oh well, back in time and I see mom again. Yeah don't bother helping me save my timeline guys, it's fucking dispensable'.
People seem to forget that the Dragon Balls can be easily disabled and that if everyone else dies while Kakarrot's stuck fighting the main bad guy...no one is gonna be around to ensure the use of the Dragon Balls.
The Dragon Balls are only useful if the villain is either far away from them or is already defeated.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Because (1) while it is just raw force, it's also the energy of multiple beings scrunched together into one ball: with every other attack, you're getting hit with just all the energy that one dude can muster (barring team up attacks), but with this, you're getting hit with all the energy that ten or twenty dudes, their dogs, and their potted plants have...along with the fracking sun too!
(2) If Genki is no different from every other energy in that it can used, then what's the point of it? It's functionally as useless as any other attack used on someone more powerful than you.
The attack already has plenty of weaknesses: the time it takes to gather, that it can be interrupted, that Goku is totally vulnerable while gathering the energy, and in the case of the Buu fight, that he has to get people to give him that power, and they might not be willing.
I just don't think it needs a Oh, and it will fail if the other guy is more powerful too. That just makes it like any other attack, and it should be more than that.
One Strip! One Strip!1 doesn't matter. Energy doesn't become special just because its gathered from many people, nor do they contribute all of their energy, since they would be dead. A hundred thousand ones is smaller than a million. 2, since Ki is composed of Genki, Yuuki and Shoki, there isn't any reason it should be better than regular Ki. In normal circumstances, its a special technique that allows a weaker individual to attack with more energy that they can muster by themselves, not a one-hit kill move, and never has been. There's no reason for it to be special unless you buy into the hype whenever Goku uses it to finish off his opponent in the movies.
Kaio ken is a power multiplier
I guess the spirit dama could have been one too
Forever liveblogging the AvengersEveryone was apparently an idiot when deciding what to do about the future android attack
Forever liveblogging the AvengersA lot of good points in that video.
I was hoping he'd get to Androids 16, 17 and 18 in this video but I guess he's taking it slow.
The Bulma thing only compounds the mistakes made in earlier chapters by the heroes.
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"Phew. I get the feeling that I'm gonna like the Cell Saga a lot less before this arc is done.
Then again, being on this site kinda made me more aware of its numerous flaws already.
So in other words, it's my fault for thinking the technique was far more special than it actually was.
Which, to be fair, is nothing new for me. I do get tired of being completely wrong though. One of these days, one of you guys has to screw up.
I'm looking at you Pope. Throw me a bone here.
One Strip! One Strip!Gee, it's been a while since I'd seen you here.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.@ Vegeta vs. 18: I just checked the chapter; Vegeta doesn't actually say that the blast that hit her could destroy the Earth. What he says is he's holding back because if he goes all out, he'll destroy the Earth. So if 18 could survive a world-destroying attack is still ambiguous.
edited 4th Jun '18 3:08:55 PM by HamburgerTime
Unless otherwise specified, like with Dyspo, all stats in Dragon Ball increase linearly with Power Levels. If 18 can beat up Vegeta, she can also beat up Freeza and effortlessly tank his blasts. Someone who is 3 times stronger than someone else also is 3 times faster, 3 times more durable, and has 3 times more destructive potential.
I mean, it makes sense. Toriyama was always saying he was looking for easy ways to convey certain facts right.
So just saying A beats C because B is stronger than C and A is more powerful than C makes it very easy.
One Strip! One Strip!

The problem is that it's being used to try and disregard scaling.
Scaling has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the work.
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"