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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84151: May 29th 2018 at 9:30:20 PM

I'm fine with the combat mechanics but I don't care much for the RPG mechanics.

Fighting games shouldn't have level-ups and random drop chances.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#84152: May 29th 2018 at 11:43:52 PM

Who y'all want for the DLC, the last pack added 8 characters, so I'm guessing 8 more might be coming. I got some a few ideas at who they could add:

  • Bergamo
  • Ribrianne
  • Kafla
  • Dyspo
  • Toppo
  • Android 21
  • Shallot
  • Evil Saiyan

Weird picks, I know, but they'd have neat movesets if added to Xenoverse. Plus, if there's a story, they could follow Heroes' Planet Prison arc.

edited 29th May '18 11:45:29 PM by Rinsankajugin

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84153: May 29th 2018 at 11:46:57 PM

My list is almost the same as yours:

  • Bergamo
  • Ribrianne
  • Obuni
  • Magetta
  • Kafla
  • Dyspo
  • Toppo
  • Android 21

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#84154: May 29th 2018 at 11:51:24 PM

I could see Caulifla and Kale getting in independently from Kafla as well. Maybe Roshi too since he's back into relevance now.

Besides content from Super, maybe we'll get a few old movie villains too like Garlic Jr., Androids 14 and 15, or Cooler's Armored Squadron, or maybe some GT content like Baby Vegeta, General Dildo, and Oceanus Shenron.

edited 29th May '18 11:51:50 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#84155: May 30th 2018 at 12:02:28 AM

HOLD UP, I just realized... what if characters that have appeared/will appear in Legends will also come to Xenoverse 2? Both games are by Dimps and share assets, all they'd have to do is just flesh out the movesets. This means that characters Pikkon, Tao and Chiaotzu could easily be added in a few months.

Hell, what if Dimps does what Pokemon's doing and make Xenoverse 2 compatible with Legends in some way.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84156: May 30th 2018 at 12:10:39 AM

Thought this was the Fighter Z thread, and I was wondering if you wanted (base) Android 21 as a separate DLC character.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#84157: May 30th 2018 at 12:31:30 AM

...honestly, would depend on how she would fight. They could make up anything for her, though I imagine she'd be less crazy and more scientist-y.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#84158: May 30th 2018 at 12:58:12 AM

21 and Fu could make a pretty good team, whether they be on the side of good or bad depends on the writers.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84160: May 30th 2018 at 10:30:08 AM

[up] Huh so that's how Cell's absorption works in real life.

Also a thought: So its agreed that the main reason why they went with the battle royale route is because the simple tournament bracket would have took too long.

Though looking at how long the actual arc went, would a normal tournament really have taken longer?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84161: May 30th 2018 at 10:39:38 AM

Well, the Manga is certainly speeding through the Battle Royal.

Honestly, it was probably a waste. The anime wasted a lot of time developing fodder that weren't really going to amount to anything for the most part, while the manga is just tossing them out since...well, they aren't really important.

If you weren't going to put any real effort into so many characters, then there was no point in doing it, though I do credit them for trying something a little different.

One Strip! One Strip!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84162: May 30th 2018 at 10:51:39 AM

While I'm also disappointed by how the manga version is treating most of its characters, at very least the manga does make Frost look better and Universe 4 comes off as a threat and not a complete joke.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84163: May 30th 2018 at 10:54:53 AM

Which Universe was 4 again? What have they done in both mediums?

It's very hard to remember most of these guys.

One Strip! One Strip!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84164: May 30th 2018 at 11:02:16 AM

Universe with the Rat God of Destruction that focuses on a lot of sneaky gimmicks. The latest manga chapter had Gamisaras (invisible fighter) and Damon (tiny bug fighter) clean house instead of being kind of chumpy.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84165: May 30th 2018 at 11:06:07 AM

Oh right. Yeah, they did very well in this one. They were also the ones with Dr. Paparoni and the Godzilla bot weren't they?

One Strip! One Strip!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84166: May 30th 2018 at 11:23:47 AM

No, that's Universe 3, team robots/modified warriors. They still have 7 people in as of the current manga chapter, but they haven't really done anything of note.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84167: May 30th 2018 at 11:25:00 AM

A lot of characters really should have been cut.

There's way too much flab in this tournament.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84168: May 30th 2018 at 11:29:54 AM

[up]

This tournament has more flab than Buu (who didn't even make it in) Ribrianne and Monna (Fat lady from Universe 4) combined.

One Strip! One Strip!
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#84169: May 30th 2018 at 11:33:04 AM

I still find it funny that we had an entire episode dedicated to the Universe 2 Michelin Man and his sniper duck (or some kind of bird?) buddy. Said bird-sniper sniping both of Piccolo's arms off, and then somehow ends up being defeated by Tien of all people.

And Michelin Man gets fodderized by Vegeta. Fun episode.

edited 30th May '18 11:34:14 AM by hardcorefakes

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84170: May 30th 2018 at 11:37:07 AM

A problem is that this whole thing was really dragged out.

Typical DBZ glacial pacing but yeah a lot of this shit did not need to take up entire episodes.

Would have been better if the pacing was lighting fast or just not slow as a snail.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#84171: May 30th 2018 at 11:44:26 AM

Xenoverse 2 getting more content surprised me, but then I remembered that Dragon Ball Heroes is getting an anime. Since Dimps and Bamco also handle the Heroes game, I think we'll finally see Heroes characters in Xenoverse.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84172: May 30th 2018 at 1:55:07 PM

I don't think cutting the number of fighters would actually help.

If you reduced it to say, 5 per universe, that means you're going to have the top 5 from unuverse 7. And they're God level. So either you try to have five God level people from each universe - which would be ridiculous in-universe and make the pacing WORSE for the screentime such fighters should receive - or you have basically the same thing, with the fodder being even more pointless because now they're only going up against u 7's top tiers instead of being able to serve a point against the weaker fighters. And either way you lose a lot of the chaos of a battle royale.

I think for the premise of this tournament you have to accept that not every participant is a central character. The anime didn't help with this by setting up so many of the minir characters in advance, or dedicating entire episodes to one-off antagonists.

I think the manga is handling it fibe, bar the balance of the u 7 (mainly 18 and Piccolo) characters which is likely a bigger problem with the outline wanting such a large emphasis on 17.

The fodder characters do serve a point even as they're breezed through - they demonstrate that u 7 IS very powerful among the universes, as it should be given how many advances in strength they've made over the series, and they make the strong characters (like Jiren) stand out as more meaningful, showing how rare such prowess is.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84173: May 30th 2018 at 2:16:45 PM

Eh I don't like such obvious protagonist privileges.

It's not very fun if Goku is already top dog in the multiverse & it be rather unearned for U7 when they only got like only 2 maybe 3 guys worth shit.

Besides it makes the multiverse feel more alive knowing theirs all these great warriors who went through their own trials & tribulations.

Everyone has a story as they say.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84174: May 30th 2018 at 2:37:25 PM

Yeah I mean, Toriyama has been jumping through a lot of hoops to make threats even more powerful than Goku (and the manga and anime have different interpretation of how to do so).

I do think Saiga has a point about how reducing the number of fighters would just mean everyone had to be God Level (though I think that having them be from alternate universes mitigates that, since obviously there's no one left in U 7 that's an actual threat anymore), but that's kinda a symptom of the series refusal to have an upper limit on how strong the characters can get.

The only ones left to surpass are the gods, and then what?

One Strip! One Strip!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84175: May 30th 2018 at 2:39:03 PM

It's not privilege. We saw the circumstances necessary for Goku to get where he was, it shows that kind of power shoukd be really rare. And you shouldn't hand it out to a whole bunch of characters who haven't had the build up or development that Goku did. It devalues all the time spent developing the growth of the u 7 fightersand doesn't make a lot of sense in universe with universe 7 finding the likes of Freeza to be incredibly powerful and rare.

It's just lazy to say 'oh yeah universe 7 which you have followed for decades is just the weak universe' to poorly justify throwing out some powerful new threats.

Why would Kaioshin even be surprised by the power of the early Boo arc Saiyans (Super Saiyan 1 and 2) if he was aware of the other universes who have mortals are way more powerful than that? You are invalidating huge chunks of the original story this way.

edited 30th May '18 2:41:32 PM by Saiga


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