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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#84126: May 28th 2018 at 4:40:09 PM

Hahah what the fuck

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#84127: May 28th 2018 at 4:49:37 PM

In fairness however, that's not really any dumber than the idea that defibrillators are supposed to restart hearts (they're not) which is nearly omnipresent in media anyway.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#84128: May 28th 2018 at 5:10:26 PM

Now I'm picturing a fight where a stray ki blast accidentally restarts the heart of a villain who was already dead.

edited 28th May '18 5:10:40 PM by LordVatek

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#84129: May 28th 2018 at 5:11:57 PM

If Toriyama hated the live-action movie, why does he steal ideas from it?

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84130: May 28th 2018 at 5:19:54 PM

If Toriyama hated the live-action movie, why does he steal ideas from it?

I have no idea, but reusing Evolution's King Piccolo design for Hit ended up working really well.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84131: May 28th 2018 at 5:21:09 PM

Hit is based on the Evolution version of Piccolo?

Really?

I've refused to watch the movie so I wouldn't know.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#84133: May 28th 2018 at 5:30:11 PM

Well, Evolution did get James Marsters (dub Zamasu) interested in Dragonball, so that's maybe one good thing to come of it.

edited 28th May '18 5:30:32 PM by DarkHunter

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84134: May 28th 2018 at 5:44:20 PM

Oh right! I do remember it being said Marsters was gonna be involved. I totally derped on him being Zamasu, but I totally hear it now!

I'm gonna need ten or twenty Baths for this, but Good work Evolution. Something good came out of your suckitude.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#84135: May 28th 2018 at 6:00:11 PM

Something can be terrible but still have good ideas.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84136: May 28th 2018 at 6:08:08 PM

True enough. These days execution is incredibly important.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#84137: May 28th 2018 at 6:19:32 PM

Evolution's thing was less "use Ki blast as defibrillator" and more "fire Kamehameha into chest that magically brings them back to life".

As for Evolution Piccolo and Hit, their one similarity is the vertical crack down the middle of the head, and while it's not something that was part of Piccolo's original design, it's also not particularly uncommon in science fiction.

The thing about Evolution is that it's not even an adaptation of the Dragon Ball manga, it's a remake of Dragon Ball The Magic Begins, that other shitty Dragon Ball live-action movie. Their plots are almost identical, with the most glaring bit being Grandpa Gohan dying to the main villain to get his Dragon Ball which prompts Goku to start his adventure looking for revenge and justice.

The only good thing about The Magic Begins is that not-Pilaf tries to keep the Dragon Balls away from everyone else by swallowing them, and they kill not-Pilaf by making him swallow the last one and summon Shenron to explode him from the inside out.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84138: May 28th 2018 at 6:23:04 PM

That sounds like the same trick from Curse of the Blood Rubies.

Edit: You know, this got me thinking about something.

What do you guys think the series would have been like if Pilaf had been less of a joke Starter Villain and maybe was the head of the Red Ribbon army himself?

As in if he had some actual resources? The first arc might have been spiced up a bit.

Also, I wish there were more situations where people who weren't Obviously Evil were competing for the Dragonballs with Goku and company at the same time. Maybe someone else with an equally good wish...though considering how selfish most of the gang were in the beginning, this might not have worked.

edited 28th May '18 6:25:52 PM by HandsomeRob

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#84139: May 28th 2018 at 6:25:17 PM

Ironically summoning Shenron from inside something is actually impossible in the actual manga IIRC.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#84140: May 28th 2018 at 6:51:04 PM

@Pushover: Their black bodies below the neck are fairly similar.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#84141: May 28th 2018 at 8:05:39 PM

You know, fair enough, the chest clothing is similar. The arms and legs are pretty different, but the neck and chest area is similar.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84142: May 29th 2018 at 2:03:37 AM

Well, just that one time really.

Goku didn't even heal Frieza, just lend him enough ki for him to move.

I mean, I guess there's Dende getting his hidden power unlocked by Guru, but that maybe some kind of weird thing with Namekians rather than an extension of Ki.

I was referring to Dende, since he has that ability before becoming a God and says it's something healers can do. It's rare, but definitely possible.

And I prefer healing being a rare ability than a God-ki trait given to the Gods of Destruction and Goku/Vegeta.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#84143: May 29th 2018 at 2:11:33 AM

I took Dende healing as just a unique power he had, and my idea for Godly Ki healing was less "the Gods of Destruction are now white mages" and more "have a non-stupid reason for Trunks and Future Zamasu to be able to heal".

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#84144: May 29th 2018 at 2:19:59 AM

Going to disagree on that being a less stupid alternative.

Attendants losing the ability to heal when they becone Kaioshin is weird, but I didn't think it was stupid. I'd just not have that be part of Kaioshin's history.

Dende mentions that 'some Namekians are fighters, some are healers' so it's not unique to him.

edited 29th May '18 2:21:35 AM by Saiga

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84145: May 29th 2018 at 3:56:05 PM

Two thoughts:

After years of looking at clips and pictures of it, I finally noticed something about Goku and Jackie Chun's final clash.

Actually looking at the moment where they hit each other, you barely see Goku's foot touching Roshi.

Here's a clip from the anime (it happens at 2 minutes in), and here's the moment from the manga.

I'm annoyed with myself because Roshi even says that he gambled on Goku not getting in as much with the kick as he did due to shorter legs, but somehow mis-remembered it as Roshi also getting a kick to the face (which he did, but it's not as prominent as Goku being kicked by Roshi, if at all).

So I've proven that I fail as a Dragonball fan... I blame Saiga.

Secondly...why didn't Ox King know the Kamehameha? I mean, Grandpa Gohan knew it, and every other student of the Turtle School knew it. It's odd that he's the odd man out in that party.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#84146: May 29th 2018 at 4:27:16 PM

He left school early to become a warlord

And/or back then it meant a thing to learn the kamehameha

This younger generation all easily learning it with their internets and Betamaxes

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#84147: May 29th 2018 at 7:13:32 PM

Toriyama's actually genuinely good at making fights that are really expressive and it's clear what's happening while still hiding lots of tiny details.

I can't think of many mangaka who are actually better than him at that.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#84148: May 29th 2018 at 9:00:40 PM

Apparently Dimps announced more DLC and updates are coming to Xenoverse 2.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#84149: May 29th 2018 at 9:06:19 PM

I'm actually pleased with this. Xenoverse's characters are simpler and easier to create than Fighterz, so they get to go crazier with who they include. Hopefully, Season 2(?) of DLC includes Dragon Ball and Tournament of Power characters. I always thought Toppo's Hakai aura could make for a really neat Xenoverse mechanic.

edited 29th May '18 9:06:55 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84150: May 29th 2018 at 9:11:28 PM

Sad they can't fix that game-play.

I realized why I still haven't finished he game to this day is due to it playing like absolute crap & my constant frustration turned me off from it.

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