But when traces Z people just thought it was a homage. But not that he has been caught tracing Dextor Soy's art, he doesn't have that excuse.
And after seeing the images side by side, it is in fact a trace. There's no denying it.
Toyotaro even deleted the sketch of it from his Twitter after people started to notice.
edited 22nd May '18 5:26:56 PM by Cortez
I feel like that should be distinguished because tracing is illegal as opposed to just copying the pose.
As far as I could tell, none of Toyotarou's copied poses were traces. Whereas another DB artist, fan mangaka Young Jiji, directly traced the manga for several scenes and it was much more noticeable.
Instead of just talking about it, here are some links:
The offending art in question.
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The art it was supposedly traced from.
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The two images superimposed. It looks pretty damn damning to me.
Two responses from the original artist, Dexter Soy. One with his initial reaction,
and a second where he acknowledges it as tracing.
He seems pretty shaken by it, not knowing whether to feel flattered or saddened.
Is that one of the good runs cause Marvel relaunches Captain Marvel like its going out of business.
BTW for those who don't know I do not mean that in a good way as Carol Danver's Captain Marvel has never sold particularly well. Not helped by Marvel's constant restarting of the title back to issue one to the point within the last 5 years Captain Marvel has had 5 ongoing series with most not even making it past 12 issues.
Huh when did that image come out? I thought that particular show of Yu-Gi-Oh has long since ended.
edited 22nd May '18 11:58:14 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Ah the one that put her on the map & when Marvel really started trying to make her their Wonder Woman.
At the very least I heard that run was pretty good.
I meant the promo image that Toyo apparently traced, not the comic.
edited 23rd May '18 12:10:46 AM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Tracing isn't illegal in the comic business as far as I'm aware. It's highly frowned upon but plenty of artists do it, some even openly admit it from what I've read. It helps avoid missing the deadline or making a specific pose look less cruddy. Also, I personally feel like tracing gets needlessly hated, especially in cases like these where the traced art and the original are of completely different characters and the pose is used for a completely different purpose. If he had drawn Goku in that pose by pure coincidence no-one would have cared, but for some dumb reason because he saved time andtraced art that featured the pose he was going for, suddenly it's not good art.
There is an argument to be made regarding tracing too much and whether or not it calls into question how good an artist actually is but I have no idea how that applies here.
This song needs more love.Comic book artist Greg Land is constantly lambasted & has a very poor reputation for the heavy use of tracing in his art work.
He constantly traces his own work & he even traces pornstars for expressions for female characters.
edited 23rd May '18 4:38:55 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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It's a visual medium, so it kinda does.
Obviously, because then it wouldn't be a trace.
And sure some artist trace, but they aren't seen in a favorable light. Like others have mentioned, it's why a lot of fans have a low opinion of Greg Langs work.
The sad thing is his are was actually pretty nice before he started tracing.
And think most wouldn't have minded if Toyotaro had at least given credit to Dexter Soy.
edited 23rd May '18 5:54:29 PM by Cortez
The tracing, for me, is just an indicator of deeper problems with Toyotaro's artwork and the storytelling in general. Even assuming that the Captain America pose is just a reference and not a trace... why wasn't the anatomy corrected? The head is in the completely wrong place oriented to the torso. It really takes me out of the story when I see broken bone and rubber muscle poses.
And that's only the tip of the artwork problems. Incorrect anatomy, wonky perspectives, incorrect PO Vs, and choppy transitions just litter Toyotaro's art. I could go on, but it's annoying to see so many basic mistakes pop up over and over again in a very high-profile franchise.
Sure, I could sympathize if Toyotaro traced because he's under time pressure, but if he's tracing because he hasn't mastered the fundamentals, I very much question his being a successor.

Toyotarou traces, which has always been a mark against him but I'm not going to pretend I care if he does. Super's story is bad regardless of how much he traces.