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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#83901: May 14th 2018 at 6:38:17 AM

On the Giant Bomb podcast All Systems Goku, a common feeling during the Namek saga was, "Man, Bulma used to be cool, but now she's a totally useless bitch".

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#83902: May 14th 2018 at 7:31:50 AM

Bulma's usefulness drifts from arc to arc, and Namek is her at her least useful. I generally like her because she isn't your usual demure Neutral Female that were relatively common at the time and she manages to stay sporadically useful throughout a series where that can only be said of about 3 or 4 characters.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83903: May 14th 2018 at 7:37:40 AM

They needed her to pilot the spaceship and then she became dead weight because of how the arc went

Theres a possible Namek Saga where Bulma had more to do but I can't imagine it with nothing to base it on

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#83904: May 14th 2018 at 7:50:03 AM

I generally like her because she isn't your usual demure Neutral Female that were relatively common at the time

Oh, yeah, in Dragon Ball especially, she was anything but demure.

On the other hand, her choleric disposition could get pretty annoying at times. This was especially true during the General Blue Saga, where half her dialogue could just be replaced with "whine whine whine whine whine whine whine" played on loop.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#83905: May 14th 2018 at 8:28:09 AM

@MightyMatilda: Yeah, Namek was not Bulma's best showing, but they're back in on Bulma for the Android saga stuff.

Speaking of which, new All Systems Goku episode just came out.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#83906: May 14th 2018 at 9:58:26 AM

While Bulma’s massive bitchiness and selfishness can be an understandable turn off, there’s also the points raised here.

She has her ups and downs, and if not for the massive power scale (even as early as her first appearance, where she shoots Goku in the head and only makes him mad), she probably be even more useful than she is now.

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Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#83907: May 14th 2018 at 10:18:26 AM

Does Vegeta's new form have to be called Super Saiyan Blue Evolved? I wanted to go with "Ultra Marine". Makes him sound on par with Ultra Instinct. But, you know, canon wins and all that.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#83908: May 14th 2018 at 10:20:16 AM

He's not on par with Ultra Instinct, though, so that would just be a lie.

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#83909: May 14th 2018 at 10:25:29 AM

Super saiyan one and two aren't on par and yet they're both super

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#83910: May 14th 2018 at 11:11:06 AM

Bulma's usefulness throughout the series (it should go without saying that every time the Dragon Radar is used, that's her being useful by proxy):

Hunt for Dragon Balls: Starts the whole thing and is practically a walking pez dispenser of transportation and shelter.

21st Tenkaichi Budokai: Bulma doesn't tend to do much in the tournament arcs, but here she does wake Goku up from Roshi's Lullaby technique.

Red Ribbon Army: Fixes the Dragon Radar, and... smuggles a gemstone in her crotch? She also piloted the submarine, even if she didn't bring it.

22nd Tenkaichi Budokai: Helps escort Yamcha to the hospital?

Demon King Piccolo: I can't remember her doing anything here, beyond flying the plane.

23rd Tenkaichi Budokai: Yeah, nothing.

Saiyan Saga: She takes Raditz' Scouter and changes the language settings, allowing them to locate Tenshinhan, Chiaotzu, and Yamcha faster.

Namek Saga: Bulma learns Namekian, fixes up Kami's spaceship, and pilots it to Namek. Once there, she does nothing.

Cell Saga: Bulma is the MVP of this arc. She breaks time and space to create the time machine for Trunks, she tells the gang who Dr. Gero is and where his base is, she makes the Android shut-down remote, and she fixes 16 and takes the bomb out of his chest.

Buu Saga: Bulma doesn't do much here, beyond using Shenron to revive Majin Vegeta's victims.

Battle of Gods: The setting is Bulma's birthday party, I guess? She has the Dragon Balls gathered for the bingo prize, and they're used to learn about the Super Saiyan God.

Resurrection 'F': She alerts Whis to bring Goku and Vegeta back with giant strawberry ice cream.

U6/U7 Tournament: She goes to Zuno to find out about the Super Dragon Balls.

Future Trunks arc: She fixes the time machine, twice! She also brings food to the people in Trunks' timeline.

Universal Survival Saga: Nothing here.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#83911: May 14th 2018 at 12:35:54 PM

Like how people keep bringing up the Android arc when 1/2 of her contribution ended up not amounting to much...

The remote ended up being useless due to Kriller and removing 16's Bomb caused him to be the died...but it had a different result that wasn't intended.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#83912: May 14th 2018 at 12:38:11 PM

The original person never said anything about Bulma not being useful, they just said they hate her.

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#83913: May 14th 2018 at 12:39:26 PM

Universal Survival Saga: Nothing here.

What about 17's boat, man?! Probably joke about unintentionally providing emotional support for Vegeta's little arc during the last cour.

[up]Yeah, not liking Bulma isn't necessarily a problem. It's when some people compile it with "she's [Chi-Chi level] useless" is where my head starts scratching.

edited 14th May '18 12:42:13 PM by XMenMutant22

VulgarBee I AM KING OF THE BEACH!! from End of the Other Side Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#83914: May 14th 2018 at 5:26:59 PM

Thank you everyone. I think I found my problem. I probably just don’t like the fact that she gets more screen time in Super. She’s not my favorite character, that’s Gohan. Anyway, thank you everyone 🙏

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#83915: May 14th 2018 at 5:29:24 PM

The 2nd most important character gets more screen time in the Super Series?

Ya don't say...

But you actually did say that...

edited 14th May '18 5:34:55 PM by randomness4

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#83916: May 14th 2018 at 5:33:57 PM

Actually, I forgot that she agreed to reimburse all of Team Universe 7 with money for winning the tournament (and gave 17 her cruiser from the start of Super). That counts.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#83917: May 14th 2018 at 5:39:33 PM

There's also her schmoozing of Whis & Beerus. She's constantly offering them food & spending time with a highly homicidal God so they have less reason to destroy Earth (even if she can't control her temper as much as she should).

Bulma has a lot of my respect there. It takes a lot of grit to willingly spend time with Beerus of all people.

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#83918: May 14th 2018 at 5:43:42 PM

She's married to Vegeta. Plenty of experience.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#83919: May 14th 2018 at 5:52:27 PM

Also, she's pretty much one of the few people who can mouth off Beerus and get away with it.

Hell, she's slapped him in the face and didn't get erased immediately, and she's even raised it to socking him upside the head.

And lets re-call her epically chewing him out over Goku Black still being alive (which, to be fair wasn't really his fault, as even Black made it clear that if not for the Time Ring, Beerus killing past Zamasu would have worked, and since everything Zamasu was doing was uncharted territory, he had no way of knowing that would happen).

...How come they never tried to get the ring off Black's finger? I mean, that's the only reason he still existed, so doing that would have...well undone everything he did.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#83920: May 14th 2018 at 6:33:41 PM

Split timeline and Beerus getting confused by time travel.

Hell, time travel even supercedes Zeno. Guess that's why it is highly illegal, it outright takes precedence over divine power by creating an alternative timeline.

...

If only they had remembered Cell's time machine AFTER the whole Black saga, rather than as a mess in the anime.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#83921: May 15th 2018 at 7:00:49 AM

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I mean, would slicing off his finger (or even destroying the ring) actually accomplish anything? I don't think it would, the damage to the future had already been done. I doubt Black himself would just poof out of existence or something if they managed to destroy the ring. And there's the fact that Zamasu himself is still immortal.

edited 15th May '18 7:01:45 AM by hardcorefakes

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#83922: May 15th 2018 at 7:03:26 AM

Yeah. but that's what the Mafuuba is for.

Zamasu on his own is weak. It's only his immortality that makes him a threat.

Also, if Black hadn't been wearing the ring, there'd be no immortal Zamasu anyway.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#83923: May 17th 2018 at 3:20:10 AM

So there is going to be a Dragon Ball Heroes anime.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#83925: May 17th 2018 at 5:34:41 AM

Looks like it's just a bunch of short promotional episodes unfortunately.


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