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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83851: May 6th 2018 at 5:44:14 PM

I admit, I am annoyed that he stuck to this SCREW D'EM TAILS attitude even with the Universe 6 saiyans even though he's not drawing all the characters anymore (Toyotarou is doing half the work).

I'm never not gonna be convinced that there's still so much to mine from tails.

I mean, Super Saiyan 4 is unlikely (he definitely prefers to do his own thing than crib something from someone else), but I feel like there's something in combining the two notable Saiyan Transformations.

One Strip! One Strip!
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#83852: May 6th 2018 at 5:47:15 PM

He used to be lazy in the way that when you need to churn out a chapter of manga each week, you look for shortcuts (that is to say, not really lazy).

Now he's lazy in that he's an old man and he doesn't really have an editor looking over his shoulder so much as a bunch of people taking his ideas and making dodgy children's TV out of them.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#83854: May 6th 2018 at 6:09:06 PM

The U6 Saiyans aren't thin because Toriyama hates muscles. It's because his art style has changed over the past decades and that's just how he does his characters now. But Goku and co are still animated based on the designs from way back when, which leads to incongruity.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83855: May 6th 2018 at 6:29:43 PM

I admit, I miss the leaner Goku from the 23 Budokai and early Saiyan Saga.

One Strip! One Strip!
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#83856: May 6th 2018 at 6:31:50 PM

That was peak Goku.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#83857: May 6th 2018 at 6:35:47 PM

Nah, it didn't always look good with his gi...

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#83858: May 6th 2018 at 10:38:37 PM

[up]x4: @Discussing Toriyama's streamlined modern art: Agreed, it's pretty much his preferred aesthetic nowadays, which isn't necessarily born from laziness. Toriyama can still draw toned muscle, and even tailed Saiyans, as evident with his recent Shallot design for the Legends mobile game, he just simply chooses not to.

Just for fun, Toriyama did a correction of Toyotaro's sketch of Zamasu for a cheeky section for the Manga's behind the scenes.

As a side note, there are two Kansenshuu threads dedicated to recording Toriyama's Dragon Ball art pre and post-Battle of Gods.


Speaking of Goku's gi designs (and the 23rd Tournament), this fan-proposed design (apart of a contest hosted by Toriyama) could have been Goku's look for that Tournament.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#83859: May 6th 2018 at 11:11:06 PM

Seems complicated...

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#83860: May 7th 2018 at 2:25:18 AM

I kind of like it? But it's way too complex for a main character outfit.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#83861: May 7th 2018 at 2:37:51 AM

Dragon Ball in general tends to have really simple battle outfits compared to some other shows, which tend to complicate the character designs with extraneous clothing or accessories.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#83862: May 7th 2018 at 2:46:36 AM

It really says something when the franchise's most complexly designed character is still Cell.

Really the simplicity of the clothing can be easily seen in Fighter Z as around half the playable cast wear's a simple gi.

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#83863: May 8th 2018 at 10:18:56 AM

For VJump's current 25th Anniversary, Toriyama and Toyotaro submitted some Dragon Ball-related art (along with Toriyama's other series, like Dr. Slump). Toyo's submission is noteworthy for the fact that it might be his depiction of Ultra Instinct (the final silver-haired look).


Regarding Heroes, for tomorrow (or today's) Goku Day, there are two new Goku cards: Hakai Goku from the Super!Manga, and Xeno Goku with the ability to use the God Kamehameha.

Also, mistranslation, but Xeno: King Vegeta ''didn't'' fight nor defeat Beerus in the recent Heroes chapter, but he does plan on fighting him. Meanwhile, he tosses around with Bardock.

edited 8th May '18 10:26:48 AM by XMenMutant22

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83864: May 8th 2018 at 4:18:40 PM

I think this is the first time the Super manga has been acknowledged in the video games.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#83865: May 8th 2018 at 4:35:00 PM

The second time I think. I remember a card with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Beyond Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta using Gamma Burst Flash.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83866: May 8th 2018 at 4:40:18 PM

Right yeah, I forgot about Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Vegeta doing the Gamma Burst Flash.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#83867: May 8th 2018 at 8:01:33 PM

I might have mentioned this before, but I wish that Gamma Burst Flash had shown up in the anime. Having Vegeta start using it when he goes Super Saiyan Sparkly Blue would have been a neat way to sell that he's more powerful, since his signature beam attack (Final Flash) has been replaced by the "next level".

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83868: May 8th 2018 at 8:05:24 PM

I think using it in place of that Final Flash he used in SSB against Jiren and every instance after would've been good.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83870: May 9th 2018 at 7:36:39 AM

Nah, you haven't heard? It was hijacked to be Goku day.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#83871: May 9th 2018 at 8:11:03 AM

[up]Shit. I guess we'll have to celebrate May 13 as Piccolo Day, then.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83872: May 9th 2018 at 8:17:51 AM

Come on! Every day is fucking Goku day as far as the DB universe is concerned.

...then again, everyday is also Rusev Day so what do I know?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#83873: May 10th 2018 at 12:36:36 AM

The secret Ultra Instinct Goku card from the recent Heroes mission has a new ultimate and a cool team attack with SSBE Vegeta:

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#83874: May 11th 2018 at 1:17:06 PM

Question about majin vegeta.

Did the majin form actually changed how vegeta acted, considering that he retained his free will and he seemed to act on his own accord.

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Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#83875: May 11th 2018 at 1:39:45 PM

I think the idea is that as a Majin, Vegeta retained his free will, but was much more immoral


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