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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#83776: May 4th 2018 at 11:22:50 AM

I do admit, Toriyama did kinda double up on some characters.

Did we really need both Puar and Oolong...

...and actually that's kinda it.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#83777: May 4th 2018 at 11:23:10 AM

Oolong holds the same distinction as Gohan as once saving the world and then not doing anything worthwhile ever again.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83778: May 4th 2018 at 11:23:57 AM

That is perhaps the meanest thing anyone has ever said about Gohan.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#83779: May 4th 2018 at 11:24:38 AM

It may be mean, but is it untrue?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#83780: May 4th 2018 at 11:27:02 AM

He powered up Buu, forcing Goku and Vegeta to fuse?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#83781: May 4th 2018 at 12:27:06 PM

Then there is fused Zamasu, who is still Zamasu, but the only trace of Goku's body is the hairstyle.

Perhaps I'm imagining it, but I feel like his facial structure and jawline are shaped more like Goku's than Zamasssss's. The green skin and narrow eyes just distract from that, is all.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#83782: May 4th 2018 at 2:40:14 PM

It seems the current trendy ship is Shin x Beerus. I mean, I can see the justification, they did have a fair amount of interaction in the Universal Survival Saga, and their lives are tied together.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83783: May 4th 2018 at 2:46:04 PM

I don't get why that's a thing

It feels like a rip off of Kami and Piccolo but it's not like Piccolo served some great important role in balancing Earth through murder and destruction

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#83784: May 4th 2018 at 3:00:09 PM

How would Kratos fare against Beerus? tongue

edited 4th May '18 3:35:59 PM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#83785: May 4th 2018 at 3:31:25 PM

[up][up] Plot convenience in the Goku Black arc.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#83786: May 4th 2018 at 4:08:53 PM

[up][up]

Beerus: Hakai.

Kratos: *dead*

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83787: May 4th 2018 at 4:42:26 PM

Is Kratos a God Beerus can Hakai?

I mean, it makes sense since he did it to Zamasu, but we know there are different levels of Gods, but not where Kratos would stand on the DBZ deity hierarchy.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#83788: May 4th 2018 at 4:49:08 PM

I realize something: if Shin and Beerus were to fuse, it would basically nullify the Achilles' Heel of the life link, and you'd only be able to kill him/them the old-fashioned way.

Now if Beerus and Whis were to fuse, could you kill Whis by proxy via taking out Shin? Or would it be liked Fused Zamasu where the conflict between someone who should be dead and someone who shouldn't causes Body Horror?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#83789: May 5th 2018 at 2:55:19 PM

So think a Dragon Ball: The Next Generation series could work? Could focus on Goten, Trunks, Uub, Marron, Pan, and Bulla after a timeskip. You could even have Piccolo hork up a kid if you wanted a token Namekian.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#83790: May 5th 2018 at 2:59:47 PM

That's what I've always wanted, token Namekian and all.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83791: May 5th 2018 at 3:03:42 PM

Piccolo Jr Jr

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#83792: May 5th 2018 at 3:07:06 PM

I've liked the idea of naming him Guitar.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#83793: May 5th 2018 at 3:09:59 PM

A next generation set up has got to be better than Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr fighting each other, carrying that rivalry boner to new generations

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#83794: May 5th 2018 at 4:11:44 PM

I don't think that will happen though. Toriyama doesn't actually seem to be interested in moving on to the next generation. He tried that with the Buu saga, realized he didn't want to actually do it, and now comes up with any and every excuse to keep making Goku even more powerful so that no one will ever catch up to and surpass him...among his friends.

Beerus is (ultra instinct being the exception) still more powerful, and even if Goku did master it, Whis, Vados, every other angel in existence, El Padre Grande, and both Zen-O's are so strong Goku will probably never come close to being able to beat them.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#83795: May 5th 2018 at 4:44:55 PM

I’ve felt Goten and Trunks could probably carry a story or two on their own for a while. They have the wireframe of a decent character dynamic between them that could become the strong basis for something developed if properly nurtured.

To take over the main title, though? Nah. Character strength-wise and focus-wise, they’re just not there yet. None of the younger characters are interesting enough to make a Next Generation title that appealing atm.

edited 5th May '18 4:45:27 PM by KnownUnknown

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83796: May 5th 2018 at 4:46:09 PM

Characters are made more interesting through more focus

It's almost a catch 22

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#83797: May 5th 2018 at 4:58:05 PM

Alternately, just have Piccolo be himself as the lovable mentor.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#83798: May 5th 2018 at 5:00:54 PM

It'd be cool if Piccolo started a new colony of Namekians on Earth instead of just grumpily floating in wastelands

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#83799: May 5th 2018 at 5:08:43 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, but in the case of a long runner not by suddenly giving them all of it, because long runners have to build up that sort of interest over time, rely on long term fans and can easily lose those fans with abrupt major changes.

Hence my suggestion of giving them smaller or side stories of their own first and then, after they grow under the increased focus, seeing if they work in the protag role.

edited 5th May '18 5:09:26 PM by KnownUnknown

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#83800: May 5th 2018 at 5:14:43 PM

[up]That is what they basically did with Gohan and it was a lot more organic than what Goten and Trunks got.

It's basically like pro wrestling, you spend a few years being beaten up by Freeza's goons so you get over with the fans when it's time to lay the smackdown on Cell.

edited 5th May '18 5:14:50 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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