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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#83751: May 3rd 2018 at 7:38:29 PM

To be fair, it makes sense to defuse them in-universe. I imagine having to permanently share one body gets weird, especially since it was against their will.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#83752: May 3rd 2018 at 7:40:13 PM

Not even sure Kibito would get a say in things. It didn't seem like a merging of two personalities to form a new one, it was just Shin, in a new body.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83753: May 3rd 2018 at 8:46:37 PM

He was so thin as a character he was completely overwritten on fusing

Poor, poor Kibito.

Just more grist in the mill of Toriyama's infatuation with the big guy/little guy dynamic.

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#83754: May 3rd 2018 at 11:08:53 PM

Yep.

Which makes the whole thing with with Monaka even more of a shock. Toriayam subverted the dynamic and surprised us with a 'little guy who is actually strong' character who looked like he was gonna be another badass and he turned out to be a joke,

edited 3rd May '18 11:09:13 PM by GAP

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#83755: May 3rd 2018 at 11:13:02 PM

Er, no. Not really. It was clear from the beginning that he was super weak.

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#83756: May 3rd 2018 at 11:18:59 PM

Wait, I thought Monaka was nearly as strong as Beerus?

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#83757: May 3rd 2018 at 11:22:15 PM

To be fair shin didn't seem to understand just how powerful Gohan was exactly at the time when his bad plan resuted his enemy getting 50% of the energy needed.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#83758: May 3rd 2018 at 11:46:04 PM

His plan also depended on the Saiyans caring if Babidi got the rest of the energy

And was derailed by Dabra's presence (+ underestimating the Saiyans)

Anyway, Kibito not being present in the fusion isn't weird at all. It's the same thing as Elder Kaioshin fusing with the witch, his personality is still dominant (like Piccolo's fusions).

It's Vegetto that is the oddity.

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#83759: May 4th 2018 at 1:52:19 AM

I am expected that they will eventually reveal that Zen'o actually has a sister called the Queen of Everything who rules over her own multiverse. And that there's an entire family of Rulers of Everything ruled by their dad, The Emperor of Everything. Also it'll turn out that our multiverse is actually the weakest multiverse so the characters have somewhere to go when the power scaling is so absurd Krillin could stomp Whis

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#83760: May 4th 2018 at 3:29:21 AM

[up][up] And that's why the time limit for Potara on mortals makes sense, because it is not supposed to work that way and ends up reverting. Stable Potara fusions work pretty much as a lesser being being absorbed into a Kaioshin. With forms a nice parallel with Buu.

It feels neat, but I guess it wouldn't have worked if Toriyama consciously designed it that way.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#83761: May 4th 2018 at 4:56:10 AM

I don't think that is enough to say the time limits make sense. Yeah, Kaioshin fusions may be different, but there's still a leap between that and 'the permanent fusion isn't permanent'.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#83762: May 4th 2018 at 4:58:22 AM

Remind me, was there something about the way Buu absorbed people that prevented them from being resurrected by the Dragon Balls if they died in him?

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#83764: May 4th 2018 at 5:01:11 AM

So there's no reason Vegito couldn't have just killed Super Buu quick, then revive everyone later.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#83765: May 4th 2018 at 6:26:57 AM

Piccolo would have needed the Namekian balls, but yeah. There's really not a reason.

It's Vegetto that is the oddity.

Maybe because neither Goku or Vegeta's personalities would allow themselves to be subsumed by the other, so they merged instead?

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#83766: May 4th 2018 at 6:54:05 AM

Idk Vegeta does kinda come off as the more dominant part of the persona... its just Goku isn't completely subsumed... So its like a more even spilt along the lines of 55/45 instead of the usual 90/10

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#83767: May 4th 2018 at 8:35:00 AM

How come no one is talking about Zen'o? He can literally wipe out all Potara fusion guys!

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#83768: May 4th 2018 at 9:05:58 AM

God can typically do that...

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#83769: May 4th 2018 at 9:06:58 AM

Then there is fused Zamasu, who is still Zamasu, but the only trace of Goku's body is the hairstyle.

edited 4th May '18 9:08:07 AM by Eriorguez

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#83770: May 4th 2018 at 10:10:27 AM

When Piccolo and Kami fused, wasn't it less that he remained unchanged, and more that the Nameless Namekian retained both of their memories and experiences and kept going by Piccolo because it was more convenient?

And he basically ate Nail (with Nail's permission, obviously).

edited 4th May '18 10:44:29 AM by LSBK

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#83771: May 4th 2018 at 10:42:25 AM

"I am neither Kami nor Piccolo! But call me Piccolo."

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83772: May 4th 2018 at 11:05:39 AM

Toriyama should fold more useless characters together to reduce cast bloat.

I'm pretty sure we don't need both Tien and Yamcha. Or either one.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#83773: May 4th 2018 at 11:17:50 AM

But then, we couldn't watch them fail...again, and again and again.

I wouldn't say Tien and Yamcha overlap as characters anyway. Maybe when they were initially played as counterparts to each other, but I'd say Yamcha fell behind on that race from the get go.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#83774: May 4th 2018 at 11:18:43 AM

Yamcha's one of the least serious characters, Tien's one of the most serious.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#83775: May 4th 2018 at 11:20:21 AM

We have other serious characters and not serious characters.

How about fuse all the truly pointless characters like Puar, Oolong, and Chaotzu into one horrible abomination of psychic powers and twisted flesh. Like Tetsuo

edited 4th May '18 11:20:36 AM by Bocaj

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