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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#83676: May 2nd 2018 at 6:02:36 PM

I'd like it more if his fall had more substance to it.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#83677: May 2nd 2018 at 6:06:53 PM

I mean, he pretty clearly thought "it would be better if all mortals were dead" from the very beginning. It just took a little prodding to get him to act on it, not a lot, just a little.

edited 2nd May '18 6:10:17 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83678: May 2nd 2018 at 6:09:34 PM

It takes a lot less in the manga however, where he never even encounters Goku at all (which makes his decision to take his body rather odd).

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#83679: May 2nd 2018 at 6:34:37 PM

I'm glad the manga kept in Godtube at the very least.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83680: May 2nd 2018 at 10:07:10 PM

The most interaction Zamasu has with Goku in the manga is hearing Shin talk about how cool this one guy is and seeing him in a tournament in a Godtube video. Goku's performance in said tournament isn't even half as impressive as it is in the anime, so Zamasu making the decision to threaten Zuno to tell him everything about the Super Dragon Balls, then use them to steal his body mostly just off of seeing that one video feels really forced.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#83681: May 2nd 2018 at 11:38:12 PM

I'd say manga Goku's performance was more impressive because he was holding back for most of the fight and everyone made it clear he coukd have won that fight.

It is a bit odd, but the decision would only come down to Goku or Hit and Goku obviously has more raw power.

The anime doesn't really add anything to help that, except more reason for him to fixate on Goku. But the whole Super DB - Zuno - body snatch plan seem equally odd in both versions for how little Zamasu needs to go with that plan as opposed to something way more convenient.

edited 2nd May '18 11:40:49 PM by Saiga

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83682: May 2nd 2018 at 11:47:03 PM

Manga Goku barely did anything in his godly forms, and those were the only forms Zamasu would've cared about.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#83683: May 3rd 2018 at 5:55:00 AM

Have I ever mentioned that I love that Dragon Ball Heroes is a thing? I do. Mai with shotgun, Time Breaker Raditz (?) in a straight jacket and Golden Cooler were in the last trailer. Beautiful.

edited 3rd May '18 5:55:25 AM by Zeromaeus

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#83684: May 3rd 2018 at 7:02:16 AM

With how much stuff Heroes is pulling and mashing through the franchise, you gotta wonder what's next for them... Mastered Ultra Instinct Beerus? Majin 21 (Merged Zamasu Absorbed)? Time Breaker Tarble? Time Patrol Ultra-Fusion? Demon God Fu? Super 17 (Arale Absorbed)?

edited 3rd May '18 7:03:12 AM by Rinsankajugin

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#83685: May 3rd 2018 at 7:37:31 AM

Meta Frieza is my guess for the next really out there one.

This song needs more love.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83686: May 3rd 2018 at 7:58:11 AM

Personally, I've been hoping for Super Saiyan 4 Baby Vegeta and Oozaru Giant Namekian Cell, myself.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#83687: May 3rd 2018 at 8:02:48 AM

I know what you mean but now I'm imagining Vegeta as a toddler

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83688: May 3rd 2018 at 8:04:11 AM

Super Saiyan 4 baby Vegeta would also be acceptable, yes.

FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#83689: May 3rd 2018 at 8:22:03 AM

Future Trunks and Cooler as a buddy comedy needs to be a canon thing

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#83690: May 3rd 2018 at 8:23:20 AM

They can bond over daddy issues

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FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#83691: May 3rd 2018 at 8:26:28 AM

Does Cooler have issues with his Father?

I mean King Cold's so forgettable that even Freiza don't care

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#83692: May 3rd 2018 at 8:31:37 AM

Considering who Golden Cooler's attacking in the trailer, I have a feeling their team-up will be short-lived.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83693: May 3rd 2018 at 12:05:48 PM

New video from Masako (listening to this one as we speak so I can't comment on it yet):

I know at least one person who'll disagree with that he's really cool part.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#83694: May 3rd 2018 at 12:10:25 PM

So how many times in the Tournament of Power was someone supposed to be out of power/stamina only to recover like nothing happened in like 30 or less seconds (literally, from their perspective)?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83695: May 3rd 2018 at 12:11:34 PM

All the time. All the damn time.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#83696: May 3rd 2018 at 12:33:20 PM

Basically anyone who isn't Android 18 and 17. Goku and Vegeta are just the most obvious examples. Heroic Second Wind button spammed relentlessly.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#83697: May 3rd 2018 at 12:35:38 PM

Boy did that get annoying quickly.

One of the worst times was Vegeta immediately going Blue despite just using the Final Explosion only 5 seconds before.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#83698: May 3rd 2018 at 12:42:08 PM

Yeah. At the least, we can count on Toriyama and Toyotaro to be more consistent about how much strength everyone else has.

By the way, as I understand it, while Toriyama has documented the order for how universe 7 members are eliminated, he hasn't done the same for the other universes right?

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#83699: May 3rd 2018 at 12:46:14 PM

[up]

We... don't know. I assume that he has "this guy is eliminated last" liner note for each universe, but let Toei and Toyotaro decide every elimination before that.

I mean, look at Lilibeau.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#83700: May 3rd 2018 at 2:02:12 PM

Apparently according to the extra chapter in the 2nd Super Dragon Ball Heroes manga volume, Time Breaker King Vegeta was powerful enough to defeat Beerus.


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