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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82676: Apr 1st 2018 at 7:29:42 PM

[up]Cell didn't start doing anything after Piccolo. He had already wiped out an entire city, and there was no indication that he was going to stop.

There is nothing indicating he ever thought he was strong enough to take the Androids without eating a bunch of people first, and as I said, he had no way of knowing that the Androids in the main timeline were stronger than the ones from his own.

You're trying to justify something that is never implied, and ultimately is irrelevant.

edited 1st Apr '18 7:34:15 PM by LSBK

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#82677: Apr 1st 2018 at 7:47:24 PM

I too dislike the mentality of "despite being stated to be stronger, these characters have less impressive feats so they must be weaker", especially in a show with such a linear system of power escalation as this one. After a certain point, feats just become meaningless and power-scaling is the only way to properly establish a threat. Once you can destroy any single object in all of creation, the only way to establish that someone is stronger is by having them beat you up, because beating you becomes the highest feat possible at that point.

Also, having characters arbitrarily destroy planets and stars for no reason except to establish they can is useless padding, especially when everyone else in the cast can do the same.

Speaking of feats: it's funny that Kachi Katchin is still shit in the manga, with Magetta able to break it easily, especially since the previous arc showed Fused Zamasu using regular Katchin as a projectile.

edited 1st Apr '18 7:48:04 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82678: Apr 1st 2018 at 7:51:42 PM

The talk of feats reminds of Toriko, and how ridiculous everything got in that series. A lot of people liked that, but it got to a point (for me, at least) where it all started to blur together and be meaningless because the absurd strength levels had already been thoroughly established, and it got to a point where a lot of the new feats didn't really establish anything we shouldn't have already known and felt more like padding because they often didn't accomplish anything except looking cool. Which is fine, I want stuff to look cool, but at some point I also want the stuff that looks cool to mean something in the story.

edited 1st Apr '18 7:59:51 PM by LSBK

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#82679: Apr 1st 2018 at 7:54:11 PM

I didn't follow Toriko very closely, how crazy did it get?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82680: Apr 1st 2018 at 7:56:48 PM

There was a whale who had a black hole inside it & a frog God that can eat anything.

Also from what I saw it does it a lot of those attacks that can be seen from space like the Final Flash.

edited 1st Apr '18 7:57:15 PM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#82681: Apr 1st 2018 at 7:57:31 PM

This wouldn't have happened if Dragon Ball got off Earth for more than Namek...

Cell's Solar System destroying Kamehameha could've been realized...if he fired a beam in the sky and he destroyed a bunch of planets effortlessly before the beam ever dissipated.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82682: Apr 1st 2018 at 7:58:07 PM

Eating supernovas, punching people hard enough to do full resolutions across the planet in less than a second (on a planet the size of Jupiter), aging things like a thousand years per ever second for a bajillion years, etc.

edited 1st Apr '18 7:59:23 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82683: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:01:16 PM

I never read Toriko much but a couple chapters at least, especially around the end & it escalated to the point its what people stereotype DBZ as.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#82684: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:03:13 PM

I didn't follow Toriko very closely, how crazy did it get?

This crazy apparently.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#82685: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:05:44 PM

Impressive scaling...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#82686: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:07:10 PM

DB's got nothing on that.

That's some insane-ass scaling.

edited 1st Apr '18 8:07:38 PM by slimcoder

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#82687: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:08:26 PM

Oh come on. It can be that bad.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#82688: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:09:50 PM

@ LSBK: Ah...never mind.

Apparently Tori-Bot/Akira was born in age 720. Akira Toiryama was born in 1955. Meaning that 0 in the Dragonball calendar is 1235 CE. Nice to know, since it allows us to date the different sagas:

  • Beginning of Dragonball: age 749/1984
  • Red Ribbon Army arc: age 750/1985
  • King Piccolo Arc: age 753/1988
  • Piccolo Jr Arc: age 756/1991
  • Beginning of Z: age 761/1996
  • Namek arc: age 762/1997
  • Android Arc: age 767/2002
  • Buu Arc: age 774/2009
  • Battle of Gods: age 778/2013
  • Resurrection F: age 779/2014
  • Tournament of Power: age 780/2015
  • End of Z: age 784/2019
  • Future Trunks Arc(alternate timeline) age 796/2031

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#82689: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:09:54 PM

Edit:NVM

edited 1st Apr '18 8:10:12 PM by Ikedatakeshi

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#82690: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:11:24 PM

How is the planet still intact?

This song needs more love.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#82691: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:15:09 PM

Is very durable.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#82692: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:15:37 PM

I really need to read Toriko one of these days.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82693: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:17:33 PM

Overall it was a fun story. Just be prepared for a lot of infodumps and exposition the closer you get towards the end.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82694: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:19:43 PM

From what I heard the ending was really rushed.

Also the anime from Tohei didn't capture the epicness very well, & ended on a Gecko Ending.

Still though I will read it one of these days.

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#82695: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:21:22 PM

[up]×5 Technically it was a normal Earth until a meteor filled with Gourmet Cells hit it and turned it into the size of Jupiter. Considering the protagonist use those same Gourmet Cells as their source of power, it's probably okay to assume that their Earth is way stronger.

edited 1st Apr '18 8:21:39 PM by Ikedatakeshi

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#82696: Apr 1st 2018 at 8:41:26 PM

Never knew Gohand was a zombie...

Of course.

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Funny but not helpful
#82697: Apr 1st 2018 at 9:27:17 PM

Krillertime will never be a thing

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#82698: Apr 2nd 2018 at 6:53:44 AM

Mistare Fusion gives his opinion on the TOP.

edited 2nd Apr '18 6:54:17 AM by Sigilbreaker26

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#82699: Apr 2nd 2018 at 9:18:47 AM

The Toriko 'earth' is roughly the size of Jupiter, btw. There are tiny areas of it roughly the size of the entire planet earth.

Just to make it even crazier.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#82700: Apr 2nd 2018 at 10:45:29 AM

[up]

Toriko Earth sounds pretty ridiculous.

[up][up]

Mistare seems to feel the same way many do about the tournament.

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