I'll very much agree with the claim that Toriyama's romances are better than Nakaba's.
Throw in Kishimoto while you're at it as well.
Now I think Oda is better than all three, because he doesn't put in Romance at all (since he either knows he's bad at it, or has zero interest in it).
Though considering how well 18 and Krillin / Video VIDEL and Gohan / Vegeta and Bulma have worked out, I wonder if Toriyama is as bad as it as he claims...or if it just looks that way because he never bothers to show how they get together...well he did for the first two, and we saw what led to Bulma and Yamcha getting together as well.
I guess we'll never know, because he's never going to try, which is probably for the best.
Edit: GOD DAMMIT! HOW MANY TIMES IS THAT FUCKING AUTO CORRECT GOING TO TRIP ME UP?! WHY DO I NEVER SEE THIS COMING!?
I BLAME ALL OF YOU! ALL OF YOU FOR EVERYTHING!!!
edited 29th Mar '18 7:42:44 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!Thinking on it further, Saiyan Pride is funny cause you know know whenever Vegeta brings that up, he's really talking about himself.
Saiyan's aren't really a Proud Warrior Race. Proud Warrior races generally are able to make their own shit from ships to weapons, & generally have some code of honor or nobility.
They are more a Barbarian Horde really. All their crap from tech to even their clothing was either stolen or given to them. From the Saiyan's we have seen, Raditz was a coward & a liar, Nappa was a dog who likes killing people, & Vegeta was an honor-less scoundrel who abandoned his comrades the moment they prove useless to him & was a maximum Combat Pragmatist during the Frieza Saga.
All in all, the Saiyan's have essentially nothing to be proud of. They were nothing more than animals, only with the bare minimum off intelligence required to qualify as a sentient species.
edited 29th Mar '18 5:41:17 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."They can't even be proud of their fighting ability...
Only a legend which still doesn't make them the mightiest warriors in the universe.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Vegeta and Bulma being interested in each other isn't too surprising. They're both arrogant, have a platonic Tsundere relationship with Goku and have haughty backgrounds. Yamcha was simply unable to compete with their egos and decided to pursue a career in baseball instead
Yes I know Future Trunks says Yamcha cheated on Bulma, but he's Vegeta's Heroic Bastard, of course he'd say that. Also, Yamcha and Vegeta died when he was a baby so he's probably mistaken on some things
Blooma isn't Soon-der-ay to the main character...
She never has any problem showing affection to him when he isn't being a goober. Though, that applies to all his friends honestly.
edited 29th Mar '18 6:37:35 PM by randomness4
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You've said "Saiyans have nothing to be proud of" three times now.
Clearly they were proud of their strength, which was indisputably pretty high up compared to most creatures not named Frieza even before Goku and Vegeta began plumbing the depths of its capabilities.
edited 29th Mar '18 6:49:17 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!They're strongest warriors couldn't beat Nail in a fight...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.To be fair nail seemed to be the best of his species compared to the rest.
The average Saiyan seems to be capable of clearing out the species of an entire planet. So they can be proud of their ability to make a planet open for someone else to buy and inhabit it.
"Shall I use you, or make you mine... I'm not so sure what I'll do." - DorthyYa gotta look at Recoome's speech on what he thinks about the Saiyan's.
"You see, Vegeta— you sit there and brag about how the Saiyans are the mightiest warriors in aaaaaaall the Universe. How they're the most ruthless! Well, look at where they are, now! DEAD! You talk about your legends, and your warrior race, and your pride— but that doesn't mean a damn thing to this man! BECAUSE THE NAME'S...RECOOME! AND IT RHYMES! WITH DOOM! AND YOU'RE GONNA BE BE HURTING ALL! TOO! SOOOOOOON!" quoted from a 5 Time Champion.
Honestly I look for any excuse to quote this shit cause this really is gold.
It should be noted how many different races there had to be in Freezer's army...
The high chain leading up to the boss were all stronger than Saiya-jins...
While everyone else was killed by Broli...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.It's just a thing where whenever someone in a superpowered form is defeated they revert back to normal. Toppo loses God of Destruction mode, Kefla unfuses into Caulifla and Kale, Anilaza turns back into the three robots and Paparoni, the Magical Girls and Magical Boys turn back into their civilian forms. I figure it's symbolic more than anything else.
Doesn't that make the most sense!
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Why has Babidi never tried to mind-control Frieza? Frieza is known across the universe, has a lot of evil to control, and Dabura would be strong enough to get him in a position to mind-control him. For that matter, why didn't they decide to go from planet to planet to get the energy instead of visit Earth once every few centuries or so(implied with the comment they visited the planet 300 years ago).
Raditz is half as weak as a Namekian Warrior, and I believe he was a low or mid class Saiyan.
Quite frankly when you don't let Saiyans abuse their Zenkai boosts they've only really got the Great Ape form to rely on, and aside from that aren't really that impressive when compared to other warrior races (like Zarbon, Dodoria or heck, even Cui). They don't have a culture that lets them understand Ki control, for instance.
edited 30th Mar '18 12:12:16 AM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

@Zeromaeus: Vegeta was wearing whatever would be the opposite of a Death Glare in that part. He looked like he wanted to receive death instead of give it. XD
Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!