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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#82451: Mar 29th 2018 at 10:04:34 AM

I do still hold to what I've been saying for a while - a lot of the TOP's problems would be fixed if the stakes weren't so gigantic.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#82452: Mar 29th 2018 at 10:10:18 AM

I find the 17 thing to be more hilarious than anything else.

The sole survivor of a multiversal tournament isn't Goku, nor is it Vegeta, nor Gohan, or even Frieza.

It's goddamn Android 17.

This song needs more love.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#82453: Mar 29th 2018 at 10:10:52 AM

For an exceedingly brief time, he was the strongest in the world.

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#82454: Mar 29th 2018 at 10:38:56 AM

[up] Do you mean the time where he was woken up by gero but before they awakened 16? Or do you mean the future timeline?

Because in the former it was for...2 or 3 minutes while the later was for some years.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#82455: Mar 29th 2018 at 10:48:15 AM

The two to three minutes one.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#82456: Mar 29th 2018 at 10:53:47 AM

Yeesh. The jumps in power sure are ridiculous.

edited 29th Mar '18 11:07:11 AM by HandsomeRob

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#82457: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:06:20 AM

@PMC: TLDR: You're not wrong to read their interactions as romantic, but don't expect them to say it outright in the show because the homophobia of the creators leads to them writing it as "they're not gay, just really really really good friends". Basically there's no point in thinking of it in terms of Official Couple because this is really something where you have to divorce the (bad) intentions of the creators from the (gay) events on-screen.

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#82458: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:09:19 AM

Not like Dragon Ball is very good with depiction of the straight couples it has to begin with.

"Shall I use you, or make you mine... I'm not so sure what I'll do." - Dorthy
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#82459: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:12:24 AM

So how about Chichi and Goku never kissing?

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#82460: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:14:56 AM

i'm sorry, was that ever brought up in the show? every time i think about the possibility that someone could have possibly suggested it, much less wrote it into canon, that i get irrationally angry to the point that i pass out

edited 29th Mar '18 11:15:42 AM by EpicBleye

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#82461: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:15:39 AM

So how about Krillin "have dinner ready" No Last Name Given having what is probably the healthiest marital relationship in the show?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#82462: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:16:45 AM

He could take her last name. Krillin Eighteen.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#82463: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:17:18 AM

Well, Bulma and Vegeta work oddly well as a couple as well.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#82464: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:17:46 AM

nothing like good ol spousal and child emotional neglect

edited 29th Mar '18 11:17:55 AM by EpicBleye

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#82465: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:18:04 AM

Ah, yes, the strong Teen name. Seven Teen. Eight Teen. Marron Teen.

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
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#82467: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:55:03 AM

[up] Heh they're ok to me.

Though many people don't even like the existence of gine to begin with

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#82468: Mar 29th 2018 at 11:59:42 AM

Gine isn't inherently bad, I just don't like the idea of Goku having good parents.

This song needs more love.
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#82469: Mar 29th 2018 at 12:03:41 PM

It's just hard, for me, to tell whether Kale and Caulifla's relationship is yuribait or if it's just Dragon Ball writing romance the way it normally does. I'm not saying the yuribait argument isn't valid, it is, I'm listening. It's just that Dragon Ball's such a weird series in the way that it writes romance that it very easily could not be yuribait. I could see it going either way, though I want it to make it explicit that they're in a romantic relationship.

Have a filler episode where Caulifla invites Goku to her and Kale's wedding, that would be fun, and it would be a good way to see more of the U6 Saiyans.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#82470: Mar 29th 2018 at 12:08:06 PM

You keep forgetting to adress the sociopolitical context that people keep telling you to address. Works do not exist in a vacuum, FFS.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82471: Mar 29th 2018 at 12:09:00 PM

I mean, this conversation started with you saying they were definitely, indisputably in a romantic relationship. It really didn't seem like you were listening to others, because "make it explicit they're in a romantic relationship" has basically been what everyone else has been saying. And that if it isn't made explicit, you shouldn't assume that they are in one, because that's just how these things usually work.

It's not good but it's how it is. Dragon Ball was never really the most progressive work to begin with. Also what [up] said, about things not existing in a vacuum.

edited 29th Mar '18 12:10:34 PM by LSBK

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#82472: Mar 29th 2018 at 12:11:09 PM

Bardock is a bad person even if Minus didn't dwell on it.

The Saiyans under Freeza were all going out and genociding planets so they could be resold (TO WHOM?)

Gine didn't have a problem with the work. Just couldn't personally do it.

Goku's parents were only 'good' comparatively

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#82473: Mar 29th 2018 at 12:12:39 PM

Yeah, having a wife doesn't suddenly make Bardock this super goodie two-shoes. He's still a barbaric Saiyan who slaughtered races for a Genocidal Tyrant. It just adds another layer of depth to him in that he was willing to have a wife in the first place.

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#82474: Mar 29th 2018 at 12:13:21 PM

[up]x4 Even with the social aspect the only difference between the idea of those two being a couple and the majority of the official couples is marriage.

edited 29th Mar '18 12:14:43 PM by Darthwyn

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82475: Mar 29th 2018 at 12:17:21 PM

[up]No, the difference is that there is no denying what those relationships are. They're acknowledged, not toyed around with subtext or gestures that can also be toyed around with as romantic or not.

We know definitively, that Krillin and 18, Gohan and Videl, etc, have romantic feelings for one another. You cannot say that about Kale and Caulifla, and that's very likely intentional. That's a part of the sociopolitical context, and you can't just remove it.

Kale and Caulifla don't have to be married to be acknowledged, Yamcha and Bulma were never married after all.

edited 29th Mar '18 12:19:32 PM by LSBK


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