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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#82326: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:22:19 PM

What you mean Dark Dragon Ball Full Power Super Saiyan 4 Time Breaker Broly? What's dumb about Dark Dragon Ball Full Power Super Saiyan 4 Time Breaker Broly?

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82327: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:23:34 PM

Huh I found this article.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-03-27/toei-animation-to-establish-department-focused-on-dragon-ball/.129582

I thought Tohei always had a Dragon Ball specific studio.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#82329: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:36:12 PM

Ah yes, of course.

This song needs more love.
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#82330: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:10:50 PM

Frieza's Death Ball sending Bardock back in time is pretty dumb. There's also the fact that Frieza (as well as Zarbon and Dodoria) engages Bardock a lot more in the Super Saiyan special, talking directly with him like they gave a shit about him specifically.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#82331: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:15:01 PM

If the Death Ball sent Bardock back in time, does that mean planet Vegeta was also thrown back in time?

I mean, I know it wasn't, but it still strikes me as weird.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82332: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:17:33 PM

Bardock did impress Frieza though. Out of all the Saiyan's out there he was the only one Frieza praised for being a little ballsy.

Also I think we can all agree the Super Saiyan Special was stupid.

edited 27th Mar '18 6:17:54 PM by slimcoder

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#82333: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:17:38 PM

Planet Vegeta went back in time and became Earth

The Freeza soldiers went back in time and became their own grandparents

Namek went back in time and became Fake Namek

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82335: Mar 27th 2018 at 7:57:23 PM

........ Well she's not wrong. [lol]

edited 27th Mar '18 7:57:34 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82336: Mar 27th 2018 at 8:02:08 PM

Was that supposed to be Caulifla?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#82337: Mar 27th 2018 at 8:13:05 PM

Who esle would it be

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82338: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:06:35 PM

Caulifla is like Gohan's age, and Goku clearly sees her as a student. Anything shipping her and Goku together is gross and wrong, especially when Caulifla already has Kale.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#82340: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:10:26 PM

Where'd you get Gohan's age?

Has that been stated cause I don't know how old the fuck are Tweedledee, Tweedledum, & tweedleguy.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82341: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:10:53 PM

You say "especially when she has Kale" as if there's anything romantic between Kale and Caulifla. I doubt they'd ever actually go there beyond one-sided implication on Kale's part.

edited 27th Mar '18 9:11:12 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82342: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:13:51 PM

[up][up]It hasn't really been stated, but they feel like they're in their early twenties. Cabba is noted as a rookie prodigy in the army, Caulifla is running some gang, and Kale is dealing with love insecurities and self-hatred. Caulifla also calls Goku "old man", so she at least sees Goku as much older than herself.

[up]The interlaced fingers moment calls bullshit.

edited 27th Mar '18 9:14:31 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82343: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:16:50 PM

Huh I don't know why but I thought you meant Teen-Gohan, brain-fart there.

Eh she's of legal age, plenty of people have gone out with people older then they are. We were talking about 17 possibly getting with a significantly older Violet like a day ago.

I once had a conversation about this with a friend who was uncomfortable with the relationship, I thought it was due to Goku being married but he was talking about the age difference between the two.

edited 27th Mar '18 9:17:41 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82344: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:18:20 PM

[up][up]The what moment?

Because Caulifla's interested in her seem to firmly be as "master" to a "protégé" and even in that regard Caulifla seemed pretty shitty.

edited 27th Mar '18 9:19:49 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82345: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:21:17 PM

Saiyan's strike me as the bang anything in sight type than having a specific preference any way.

They are savages after all.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82346: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:31:10 PM

The moment where Caulifla grabs Kale's hand and snaps her to reality by talking about how great she is. This is followed up by them declaring that they're going to beat Goku together as a team with the power of their love for each other, all while holding hand with fingers interlaced. Holding hands in public is a BIG thing in the gay community, and interlaced fingers is one of the most overt symbols of romantic love that exists. That moment completely dropped any subtext or pretense, they're lesbians.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82347: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:34:59 PM

Isn't that a very common act of the Romantic Two-Girl Friendship in Japan?

Cause yeah that's a rather regular thing to do in anime.

I'm not against them being into each other but I need something more overt than that.

edited 27th Mar '18 9:35:36 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82348: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:36:07 PM

It's not "dropping the subtext" until they actually have them saying or doing something blatantly romantic.

And, no, going "holding hands in public is a big thing in the LGBT community" doesn't qualify because 1) why do you assume things like that transfer to Japan and 2) holding hands is not just a romantic thing, let alone a specific LGBT thing.

If you want them to get together, that's fine (I don't think they'd make a particularly healthy couple, but that's never stopped Dragon Ball before) but don't pretend they are and there's no room for debate about it.

edited 27th Mar '18 9:37:22 PM by LSBK

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#82349: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:55:17 PM

We moved past this, but I would like to add my voice to the "episode of bardock is utterly stupid on every level " chorus.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82350: Mar 27th 2018 at 9:55:49 PM

1) It transfers to Japan MORE because of Japan's homophobia.

2) No, handholding is MUCH more of a romantic and important gesture in the LGBT+ community. Straight people holding hands: "let's hold hands and walk together, because I like you". LGBT+ people holding hands: "let's hold hands and bravely and openly affirm our sexuality to the world". The interlaced finger version carries an air of reassurance and solidarity on top of that. Given all the hints already set up, Kale and Caulifla holding hands while making a speech about how important they are to each other and how they'll overcome any obstacle together is one of the gayest things I've ever seen.


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