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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#82176: Mar 25th 2018 at 5:47:57 PM

Who cares, it's a funny joke to make.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82177: Mar 25th 2018 at 5:57:04 PM

I'm pretty sure Saonel and Pirina didn't fuse with all the U6 Namekians. I remember them saying something about the Namekians volunteering for it, so there were probably a bunch left.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82178: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:13:34 PM

It also means their act of fusion was for naught.

It was tragically unnecessary.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#82179: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:17:11 PM

Dragonball is the story of people doing things that end up not mattering for one reason or another, so it's nothing new really.[lol]

One Strip! One Strip!
Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#82180: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:21:32 PM

[up][up]It was unnecessary the second they lost. Also you do know that they are Namekians so they have Dragon Balls and can easily undo it.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82181: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:28:12 PM

Still a lot of the bite of their sacrifice was taken out of the whole secret test of character trick.

As long as the person who won was a decent person they were safe.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#82182: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:30:14 PM

Considering how close Frieza was to winning...

This song needs more love.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82183: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:34:18 PM

Another gaping hole in this scenario: even a "decent" person couldn't be counted on to make that wish because they'd have no reason to think the Zeno/Grand Priest would let them do that. For all they'd know, asking would end up getting them and their entire universe erased. Not wanting risk that does not make one a terrible person, especially when they had no control over this tournament in the first place.

edited 25th Mar '18 6:36:57 PM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#82184: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:45:09 PM

Good thing Freeza is a man of his word...

Its funny because Freeza may be an asshole, but he's a polite asshole. Vegeta's just rude overall lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#82186: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:49:49 PM

A good person should still try.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82187: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:51:24 PM

A good person might try. Expecting something like that, and saying otherwise a person isn't "good" is entirely unreasonable given everything about the situation.

Not that I think this necessarily matters for 17; with his nonchalant attitude concerning the entire situation, I wouldn't be surprised if just shrugged off everything getting erased with an "Oh well".

edited 25th Mar '18 6:53:20 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82188: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:52:20 PM

That's the question.

Would you make a wish that would surly piss off your Gods & get you killed or don't bite the hand that's allowing you to live by making a relatively harmless wish?

[up] Your not a bad person if you don't make the wish. This is a horrible situation that would break anyone after all.

edited 25th Mar '18 6:53:07 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#82189: Mar 25th 2018 at 6:55:58 PM

Zen'o is smarter than we thought, but he's still a child and doesn't think things hard enough. It's why he can't get anyone to be his friend besides another Zen'o and Goku. If he knew he was The Dreaded, he'd try to be a lot more tactful.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#82190: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:01:28 PM

I didn't say that not doing anything automatically makes you bad. But making a self centered wish when 7 other universes got erased would. I think it was less they wanted the exact phrasing of everyone comes back than it was they didn't want a selfish wish.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82191: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:02:42 PM

I thought it was pretty clear that if the person didn't wish for the Universes backed they were going to destroy all of the remaining ones. That seemed like the only wish they would have found acceptable. It's an even worse position to put someone in, than the tournament was in the first place.

edited 25th Mar '18 7:03:45 PM by LSBK

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#82192: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:02:46 PM

I don't see why this is such a big deal to begin with, as wild life ranger I would imagine 17 hold pretty good value on people's life in general. Especially since he never goes out his way to kill any of the poachers to begin with.

edited 25th Mar '18 7:09:15 PM by agent-trunks

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#82193: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:05:15 PM

If he knew he was The Dreaded, he'd try to be a lot more tactful.

He casually threatens Shin and his body guards while talking to Goku.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#82194: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:08:15 PM

So you think if I wished back one just to test it they would still erase us both? The SDB can be gathered down the line to restore the rest. Also I really don't see how you get in this situation and then just wish for a boat or something for yourself. Not saying anyone is bad for worrying about the consequences but I don't personally see how you would try anything else. In universe though I can see exactly why there are only two options. But that's all I'll say, I don't want to come off as judging or condemning anyone's values.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#82195: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:09:59 PM

I never said that 17 wouldn't be a bad person for wishing for a boat in this situation. I'm saying him being a shitty person shouldn't automatically be treated as saying anything about Universe 7, or mortals in general, which it seems like they were going to do for whoever won.

You're arguing against something I never said.

edited 25th Mar '18 7:10:23 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82196: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:09:59 PM

Really this tournament is to judge who either has the biggest balls in the multiverse or just the most uncaring balls.

It has nothing to do with proving who's a good person. tongue

edited 25th Mar '18 7:10:18 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#82197: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:11:00 PM

Like I said before, this twist puts the blame firmly on Goku's shoulders once again. Zeno clearly wasn't planning on destroying the universes anyway and this tournament put all twelve of them in danger.

This song needs more love.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#82199: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:14:05 PM

Yeah, the writers choosing to make this into a Secret Test of Character doesn't really make the Zeno's or the Grande Padre look like less of grade A a-holes, if anything, under scrutiny it makes it worse because now they're condemning the entire of the remaining universe just because the winner may be a shitty person. I would be alright with the Zeno's still being immature and quick to delete everything that bothers them instead of trying to make them appear smarter (it literally just makes them look worse).

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#82200: Mar 25th 2018 at 7:15:10 PM

Well the winner is the 'best' mortal. So if they are a shitbag no one else is worth it anyway. Even though they are equating best with strongest or best at surviving, but it is shonen so that is kinda how these things go. Or they were gonna erase everyone from the start like they said but had so much fun they threw in this 'twist' to make themselves look better. Probably Zeno didn't care and GP was pulling good PR.

edited 25th Mar '18 7:16:23 PM by Jedi1113


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