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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#81526: Mar 19th 2018 at 7:06:18 AM

Yeah the framing really reminded me of Frieza giving Goku energy earlier in the arc.

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#81527: Mar 19th 2018 at 7:11:30 AM

I was saying that out loud. In hindsight, it's obvious that wasn't what he was doing, but what a fuckin' swerve it would've been. I'm still curious if those 4 or 5 conversations Goku's had with powerful people about how he's plotting something and they're subservient to the gods "for now" will have any pay-off.

The idea that Goku pushing for all these tournaments is partially him scouting for powerful people to join him in a war to overthrow the gods is something I've considered. On the one hand, it feels really out-of-character for Goku to do something so devious. On the other, it would be a fantastically foreshadowed moment, ever since the end of Goku's fight with Hit, and it would mean that Goku Took a Level in Badass way beyond anything we've ever thought possible for him.

It also makes me wonder what Goku's mortal army would look like. Obviously, himself, Vegeta, Hit, and Freeza would be involved, since the latter two are the ones he's mentioned this to. I'd bet that Jiren and Kafla would also join. Goku's totally going to befriend the former and he's already helped mentor the latter.

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#81528: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:33:42 AM

....yeah, okay, this episode won me back over. i'm not going to forgive the rest of the series for its sins, but at the very least i can point to this episode and say "this was actually pretty damn good"

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#81529: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:35:22 AM

Count me among the group that thinks it really makes no sense for Goku to be having second thoughts about ending things with Jiren.

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#81530: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:37:58 AM

i actually think it makes sense. it's totally in-character for Goku to hesitate to kill his opponents, or to take pity upon them before delivering the final blow.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#81531: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:39:35 AM

He wasn't going to kill Jiren, though, and I even if he had to kill him, I don't think it's in character for him to hesitate at this point.

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#81532: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:41:44 AM

i think Goku knows that if he knocks Jiren off-stage he gets erased with all of his universe. I also don't think it isn't in character, especially when Goku recognizes that Jiren isn't entirely evil.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#81533: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:42:50 AM

Of course he knows that, it hasn't made him hesitate before. And there's especially no reason now, when Jiren just tried to kill all of his teammates like two seconds prior.

This was never about whether characters were evil or deserved to be erased.

edited 19th Mar '18 8:43:48 AM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#81534: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:47:56 AM

Honestly I found the episode kinda underwhelming.

Like the fight felt like just high-speed flailing. A lot of moveing around but nothing really solid if you catch my drift.

edited 19th Mar '18 8:51:58 AM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#81535: Mar 19th 2018 at 8:50:04 AM

Also, when Goku finally reached his limit, weird choice to make it seem like blood was exploding out of his back when it wasn't.

Something like that would actually be cool if they could actually show that much blood, but they can't.

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#81536: Mar 19th 2018 at 11:13:18 AM

Mistarefusion called the show trash because episode 130 angered him so much. This is depresing for me.

I can't blame him. I'm tired of this damn arc and the damn fandom/hatedom for this series. I've never experienced such a toxic experience from such a show and the reaction it got when it comes to fandom/hatedom. The closest thing was when I was so angry with Fantastic Four by Fox.

edited 19th Mar '18 11:16:21 AM by Tomodachi

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#81537: Mar 19th 2018 at 11:27:32 AM

I'm not sure any criticism I know of could be toxic.

edited 19th Mar '18 11:33:39 AM by VeryMelon

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#81538: Mar 19th 2018 at 11:33:09 AM

No, the criticism is not toxic, is completely valid, is the over-reaction from all parties in the community that is tiring me out.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#81540: Mar 19th 2018 at 2:01:25 PM

what if what exploded out of goku was his back tingles and he cant transform anymore

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#81541: Mar 19th 2018 at 2:13:48 PM

That would be appreciated.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#81542: Mar 19th 2018 at 2:15:17 PM

What like Ultra Instinct or Super Saiyan in general? The first one I could see and actually expect to an extent. The second would just be contrived though I confess that Goku losing the ability to go Super Saiyan but still being stronger than Vegeta would be hilarious.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#81543: Mar 19th 2018 at 2:19:20 PM

I'm just wondering who MistareFusion is and why we should care what he thinks.

edited 19th Mar '18 2:19:50 PM by DarkHunter

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#81544: Mar 19th 2018 at 2:23:39 PM

I don't think they said you had to care...?

It's just an anotner opinion.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#81545: Mar 19th 2018 at 3:03:30 PM

The damaged(?) aura effect was cool

Goku Oscuro when tongue

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#81546: Mar 19th 2018 at 4:07:11 PM

[up][up][up]

He has a really fantastic dissection of the Dragonball Manga (and Anime), right from the beginning, it's really informative and entertaining. He's early Cell saga now, and it's really good.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
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#81547: Mar 19th 2018 at 4:08:38 PM

"Fantastic" is subjective.

I personally find him pretentious

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#81548: Mar 19th 2018 at 4:11:41 PM

Huh so the next episode is the series finale.

Okay there is no way its gonna be a remotely satisfying ending in any way. Going by the preview the first half of the episode appears to be the ending battle & the second half already has Super Shenron activated meaning their gonna speed through the awards ceremony & just get straight on with the wish.

This combined with the knowledge the upcoming movie is looking to be just a glorified episode of Super we might get either a cliffhanger or a non ending.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#81549: Mar 19th 2018 at 4:36:42 PM

[up][up] Is this the "calling Bulma Blooma" thing?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#81550: Mar 19th 2018 at 4:40:03 PM

what? no.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae

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