The whole friendship things sounds more like Toei addition than anything Toriyama did, so it's their mistake for putting something like that in when that's not really a dragon ball thing.
I mean, sometimes Goku's friends do help him, but other times they either can't do anything but watch, or arrive after he's already done all the work.
One Strip! One Strip!Technically Roshi was a rival to Goku as Jackie Chun.
So really just Gohan...both Trunks and Goten.
One Strip! One Strip!Huh chances are Super will end on a cliffhanger.
If were still doing a fight even to the last episode I can't imagine that it will be a satisfying conclusion to all this.
Okay it is a bit disappointing that the movie is basically the real Super finale.
edited 18th Mar '18 9:47:23 AM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Blowing yourself up has a really good track record in dragon ball
Cell, Vegeta the second time, and 17 all walked away from it
Forever liveblogging the AvengersCell could regenerate (and didn't know he'd survive) and 17 and Vegeta surviving were both bullshit.
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The first example is the only time that has ever happened in Z & it was with a chimeric abomination with immense natural regeneration abilities.
The latter 2 happened literally within the last month.
I really want someone to just run out the clock, they only got a couple seconds in this mess.
edited 18th Mar '18 9:55:16 AM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."What are you talking about? Cell totally killed Goku, King Kai, Bubbles and Gregory. Sure, he was trying to get a few more people in the mix, but he still did exactly what he wanted to do.
No, Tien was a lot more entertaining and had a solid arc over his appearances (to the point that he had fully completed a character arc before he fought Goku).
Tien also fights in a way more interesting way.
edited 18th Mar '18 10:12:01 AM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"If anything, this fight feels more like the Vegeta fight. First it was a group effort, then Goku busted out the new killer god form, then he tuckered out without totally beating the BBEG, and then his friends had to jump in to help him.
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"Honestly, Vegeta surviving the second time didn't bother me too much since, even against Buu, the move wasn't actually him blowing up his body like Chiaotzu, Cell, or 17. It was a huge release of ki that led to him turning to stone (I guess using up far too more ki than you can expend turns you into stone...I dunno, the Buu saga was weird).

Wait... what?