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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#80851: Mar 10th 2018 at 10:55:44 PM

If you're only counting main villains, then yeah

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80852: Mar 10th 2018 at 10:58:19 PM

[up][up] Yup.

After that he fought 19 which ended unfinished, Cell which he gave up, Yakon a minor villain by overfeeding him, Fat Buu which ended in a draw, Super Buu which he fused against, Kid Buu was a team-effort, he lost against Beerus, threw Botamo off the ring, his match with Hit ended in a draw, Zamasu lost to Future Trunks.

He only actually started being people with the Kamehameha in this exact arc.

Oh also forgot Mecha-Frieza's death by Future Trunks & Goku only killed one guy with the Kamehameha in Gt which was Baby as every other villain he Dragon Fisted.

edited 10th Mar '18 11:34:12 PM by slimcoder

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#80853: Mar 10th 2018 at 11:03:48 PM

I guess he thought to himself, "Goku killed Frieza with the Kamehameha in ROF, so he must do this all the time."

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80854: Mar 10th 2018 at 11:46:28 PM

Again if this is not just a joke then this goes into the issue that the people working on this show believe the stereotypes & memes as actual facts.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#80855: Mar 11th 2018 at 12:22:36 AM

What about the movies?

"Mai waifu."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#80856: Mar 11th 2018 at 12:34:06 AM

I can't think of many villains that were Kamehameha'd to death in movies. Cooler was beaten that way the first time, I guess, but he didn't die. And then Broly the second time.

edited 11th Mar '18 12:34:16 AM by Hobgoblin

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80857: Mar 11th 2018 at 1:14:55 AM

What I just thought of this.

What if he meant within the confines of this specific arc? Cause on further thought Goku has used the Kamehameha on literally every competitor he has erased.

I can see why Toriyama never did this cause it got boring real fast. The Sliding Kamehameha was the only good one.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#80858: Mar 11th 2018 at 1:28:27 AM

It wouldn't make sense if he was referring to strictly the TOP, since the last two statements before that were

One might say that the ten Universe 7 fighters are all Goku’s various rivals that he’s fought through the years. It all makes sense in that light.
and
Ultra Instinct goes into operation in ep.129, and everyone’s very interested in what will happen in the final two episodes, but…?!

The word used by Nakamura, being "villain", also implies that we're talking about major characters here. Especially since the interviewer's follow-up to that was

After all, Jiren isn’t evil
Meaning that we have to be talking about important series antagonists, since very few characters in the TOP would reasonably be considered evil.

edited 11th Mar '18 1:29:33 AM by EpicBleye

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Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#80859: Mar 11th 2018 at 3:27:35 AM

Or

You are reading too much into this.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#80860: Mar 11th 2018 at 3:32:18 AM

Not really. The interview is just wrong.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80861: Mar 11th 2018 at 3:34:39 AM

Its like making an Aquaman sucks joke.

There not funny & its inaccurate.

I mean sure its just a joke but still.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#80862: Mar 11th 2018 at 3:35:31 AM

[nja]Uh, no? I'm just going over very basic linguistic choices.

Their wordings were deliberate in referring to the villains of the series, of which there are none in the TOP besides Frieza.

If you have reason to believe that Nakamura is referring to the characters in the TOP by all means share it, but until then it's super safe to assume he's talking about Dragon Ball as a whole.

edited 11th Mar '18 3:35:56 AM by EpicBleye

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#80863: Mar 11th 2018 at 3:52:24 AM

It's nitpicking. He was clearly saying "Jiren won't be killed off, over and done with forever" not "Goku, personally, has killed and beaten all of the past villains with a Kamehameha". I'm sure that if you confronted him on that, he'd say the same thing.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80864: Mar 11th 2018 at 3:56:45 AM

I don't know I kinda wish he'd be done away with forever.

Eh he's not worth the effort to develop into a likable cha..... no into an actual character.

He's just one giant disappointment.

edited 11th Mar '18 3:57:13 AM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#80865: Mar 11th 2018 at 3:59:55 AM

[up][up] I'm 99% sure that is nothing like what he's saying, especially given recent spoilers

He's not talking about Jiren being killed or forgotten about, he's clearly talking about how Jiren will be beaten.

And it's flat out wrong to say the previous villains were beaten like that.

edited 11th Mar '18 4:00:35 AM by Saiga

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#80866: Mar 11th 2018 at 4:05:14 AM

So rather than assuming he wasn't literally saying all the villains are beaten by a kamehameha, you are all assuming the head people behind the Super anime have no idea what happened in the original manga/anime? Even though this show is unabashed and overused nostalgia pandering?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#80867: Mar 11th 2018 at 4:12:29 AM

I'm not assuming either of those things.

There are plenty of people who have watched the whole series and are still under the impression that Goku wins too often or even wins all the time. It's actually very, very common.

It's distressing to see a writer have this view, but it definitely isn't unbelievable.

My impression was what I said earlier: I think the writers believe their ending is more subversive than it actually will be.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#80868: Mar 11th 2018 at 4:22:58 AM

While that is certaintly true (sadly), I still think the focus is being point on the wrong part of what they were saying. It isn't that Jiren won't be defeated "like the other villains" it is that Jiren won't be "defeated" like the other villains. Because he isn't a villain, his plans don't need to be stopped because he is going to save everyone. Or maybe he is going to be the hero stopping Freeza. Regardless I think the kamehameha line is tangential to the point being made.

edited 11th Mar '18 4:24:04 AM by Jedi1113

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#80869: Mar 11th 2018 at 4:24:24 AM

Yeah that's definitely not what they're saying or they wouldn't say it like that.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#80870: Mar 11th 2018 at 4:28:33 AM

The interviewer says next that Jiren isn't evil and then they talk about different stances, bushido and Jiren learning things. I really don't think they mean defeat in a literal sense with how the rest of the interview talks about it.

edited 11th Mar '18 4:30:15 AM by Jedi1113

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80871: Mar 11th 2018 at 4:31:43 AM

Considering how they practically fumbled Jiren as a character from day one I am cynical that what there saying won't line up with what's actually done.

Talk is cheap & their previous actions give evidence for doubt.

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#80872: Mar 11th 2018 at 5:59:36 AM

Wasn't Vegeta beaten by being crushed underneath a naked toddler?

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#80873: Mar 11th 2018 at 6:32:06 AM

[up] He was. He didn't no sell the Spirit Bomb but it didn't take him down either.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#80874: Mar 11th 2018 at 6:59:24 AM

I agree, that interviewee is actually a fake fan because he said "Goku wins with a Kamehameha" instead of "Goku/Gohan wins with a Kamehameha/Spirit Bomb/Dragon Punch/launching into stomach".

Yeah you're being super nitpicky right now,

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#80875: Mar 11th 2018 at 7:41:49 AM

I think people are just very cynical about the entire thing, so it's very easy to take something like that and see the worst in it.

I'm not gonna judge frankly. The quote can be taken either way.

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