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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80576: Mar 8th 2018 at 1:21:09 AM

Huh well that's one plot point done, guess Toriyama believes its time.

Though it does beg the question of how they are gonna use Goku from here on out cause UI is like the most blatantly OP thing in the entire franchise.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#80577: Mar 8th 2018 at 1:38:44 AM

Dragon Ball: Video Game Logic

Kid "Goku" : Age 15

Teen "Gohan" : Age 9 (or 11)

This makes sense.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#80578: Mar 8th 2018 at 1:45:31 AM

In Japan, they use the terms "Childhood", "Boyhood" and "Adolescent" for Kid, Teen and Adult Gohan respectively. Interestingly enough, Kid Goku is known as "Goku: Boyhood" there, too.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#80579: Mar 8th 2018 at 1:55:07 AM

That's because Japan is smart...

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#80580: Mar 8th 2018 at 2:38:28 AM

Didn't Beerus say that he needed 60% of his power to beat back SSG Goku? And since then Goku's gotten 500 times stronger? (SSB + Kaiokenx 10)?

And we needed UIM for this?

edited 8th Mar '18 2:39:31 AM by Sigilbreaker26

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#80581: Mar 8th 2018 at 3:25:28 AM

Back in BOG, Beerus was using 70%. That was omitted from Super, but they instead inserted a line about using 10% against Raging Vegeta which didn't make sense BEFORE they completely redefined Beerus' strength as 'always better than Goku'. Then it made even less sense when Goku pulled out Kaio-ken x10 and merely made Beerus worried - Raging Vegeta > Blue Goku, apparently. But Kaio-ken x20 Goku still isn't stronger than Beerus, so forget him previously being worried.

That 10% line shows how little Super writers actually understand Dragon Ball. It doesn't tie into anything, it's not consistent with what happens before or after, it's just THERE because that's how the Super writers think things should go. It's just apeing the original without knowing WHY these things happened.

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#80582: Mar 8th 2018 at 3:27:37 AM

Toriyama's old scale has been thrown out. I think it's fair to assume that the Gods of Destruction are all around the range of God Toppo, which is slightly stronger than SSBE Vegeta and SSB KKx20 Goku but weaker than either state of Ultra Instinct.

Oh my god, watch the ending of the Shaggy vs Jiren fight. It's amazing.

edited 8th Mar '18 3:32:13 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80583: Mar 8th 2018 at 3:33:05 AM

Its just really hard to gauge a measure now.

Especially since Beerus never fights anymore so we have no idea exactly how close Goku is catching up.

I have to say though UI gives one Hell of a multiplayer.

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Palkia62 Since: Feb, 2018
#80584: Mar 8th 2018 at 7:34:29 AM

I think Whis may have said that if SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta would team up against Beerus, they may have a chance at beating him.

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#80585: Mar 8th 2018 at 7:51:54 AM

I mean, what with how much Super has been emphasising teamwork, and how well Goku and Vegeta were doing against Jiren even with really shitty teamwork, and we know Jiren is stronger than Beerus. That may not actually be that far-fetched.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#80586: Mar 8th 2018 at 8:32:09 AM

Awwwww... @ 17 and 16 interaction.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#80587: Mar 8th 2018 at 9:38:41 AM

Toriyama's old scale has been thrown out. I think it's fair to assume that the Gods of Destruction are all around the range of God Toppo, which is slightly stronger than SSBE Vegeta and SSB K Kx 20 Goku but weaker than either state of Ultra Instinct.

You've said this more than once before, and I still don't get why you think it makes anything better. The problem isn't (only) that Super isn't consistent with the "old scale" the problem is that Super often isn't even consistent with itself, and moments that happen in very close timing of each other can contradict one another without any rhyme or reasoning to it.

And on to your quote, no, it really isn't fair or safe to assume that.

edited 8th Mar '18 9:39:29 AM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#80588: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:03:25 AM

HAHAHAHAHA

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#80589: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:04:55 AM

oh my actual fucking fuck of a god

i can't believe that they actually did that

that said, they've described things in a really inaccurate way before. so let's hope this is one of those situations where the wording is just really really bad

edited 8th Mar '18 10:07:19 AM by EpicBleye

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#80590: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:06:08 AM

So the thing we all knew they were trying to do is going to happen, and it sounds like they actually intend for that to be a twist.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#80591: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:09:10 AM

The comments are the funniest part

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#80592: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:13:02 AM

[up]Which ones, the super super pissy ones or the ones with terrible opinions? [lol]

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#80593: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:15:26 AM

People bitch at Gohan, but Goku can't even win with an asspull power up

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#80594: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:18:10 AM

Twist #1: Goku gets eliminated, but then Freeza takes out Jiren.

Proposed Double Twist: Freeza, too cocky and sadistic, loses his head and kills Jiren. He is then disqualified, leaving the Tournament with no victor.

edited 8th Mar '18 10:18:33 AM by KnownUnknown

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#80595: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:34:03 AM

[up][up][up] Yes

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#80596: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:35:24 AM

What so funny again

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#80597: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:38:44 AM

Oh my god that's amazing. This ending redeems the Future Trunks one.

edited 8th Mar '18 10:39:10 AM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Call me Blast, not Fedetropes
#80598: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:04:46 AM

Goku is a fucking wimp

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Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#80599: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:14:45 AM

Welp this killed my interest for the last two episodes.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#80600: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:21:24 AM

Also I'm placing money on everyone (in-universe) getting upset at Frieza for taking a cheap shot at Jiren even though it's the smartest thing anyone has done so far.

This song needs more love.

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