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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#80451: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:01:54 PM

I'd say Piccolo is a better character arc than Vegeta but only because it's more organic. Vegeta requires the thumb on the scale to get in gear but after that it's pretty good.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#80452: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:02:40 PM

Do the universe 6 Saiyans do family?

Because it might be a cultural thing rather than a natural thing.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#80453: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:03:56 PM

Obviously this statement only refers to the Saiyans after they were indentured to the PTO; of what they were like before Toriyama's been very vague on.

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#80454: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:04:02 PM

[up][up]They do, but Universe 6 Saiyans are biologically different since they don't have tails at all. So whether it's natural or not to Universe 7 Saiyans is a moot point.

edited 6th Mar '18 5:05:16 PM by EpicBleye

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#80455: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:04:03 PM

Also, a big part of what makes the Mary Sue OC so bad is how stale it us. Future Trunks existed before that, the components that make him up aren't inherently bad ideas, it's just how they're used.

Hell, Toriyama could make evil Goku (mostly) work after fanfic ran that idea into the fucking ground.

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#80456: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:04:43 PM

Parallel universes are weird.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80457: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:05:58 PM

[up] To that I'd say DB's got nothing on the shit DC & Marvel does.

Amateur hour here. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#80458: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:06:53 PM

Saiyans got gradually less interesting over time as their really nasty elements started to get filed off.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
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#80459: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:07:20 PM

Dragon Ball Minus was pretty bad.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#80460: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:08:03 PM

though i will say one of the funnier lines was from Vegeta when he said that Saiyans are naturally inclined to be attracted to strong-willed women [lol]

edited 6th Mar '18 5:08:14 PM by EpicBleye

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80461: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:08:22 PM

[up][up] Indeed it was homes.

I hate Goku's mom.

[up] Which ended up being true in regards to Chi-Chi, Bulma, & Videl. tongue

edited 6th Mar '18 5:08:52 PM by slimcoder

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#80462: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:09:08 PM

[up]on the bright side Gine gets more strong-willed and interesting in any side material

edited 6th Mar '18 5:09:20 PM by EpicBleye

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#80463: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:11:16 PM

She appears in other side material?

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#80464: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:16:05 PM

Oh, I guess she only appears in Fusions, Extreme Butoden 2, and Heroes. The latter two I don't think she has any significance.

In Fusions though the quest where you recruit her has her taking on a bunch of thugs in order to protect someone, and she's one of the best support characters in the game.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#80465: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:21:27 PM

Saiyans weren't really that interesting to begin with. Proud warrior race guys are a dime a dozen.

The tails and giant monkey transformations were unique but those got left by the wayside real quick. And the zenkai boosts are just bullshit.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80466: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:23:07 PM

I feel like we should introduce a predator species for the Saiyan's at this point.

Hell maybe name them after fruits. tongue

edited 6th Mar '18 5:23:24 PM by slimcoder

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#80467: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:24:12 PM

Nayias we'll call them

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#80468: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:24:49 PM

Weren't Freeza's goons named after fruit? The non dairy ones, I mean.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#80469: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:30:08 PM

[up]

That they were.

Dodoria and Appule are good examples.

The tails and giant monkey transformations were unique but those got left by the wayside real quick. And the zenkai boosts are just bullshit.

What can you do? The author didn't like drawing them...because he couldn't figure out how Goku puts on pants...because that's the most important thing apparently.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#80470: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:31:46 PM

Wow. Toriyama is really lazy. I know its a consistent, mostly endearing thing. But wow.

Also, when I was looking to make sure that a zarbon was a fruit I ran across this gem

Due to the fact that Vegeta still survived and escaped with his last breath from his battle against Goku, Krillin, and Gohan, Zarbon is the first character to actually defeat Vegeta in a battle. Krillin had proceeded to kill Vegeta, but Goku told Krillin not to, thus ending the battle in a draw.

Not what I would consider a draw but whatever.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80471: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:34:50 PM

Yeah its really lazy especially since he's only drawing character designs now so its not like he has to keep drawing tails like back when he was working on the manga.

Also how bout meat? What theme name would match vegetables?

[up] I agree that's not a draw either.

edited 6th Mar '18 5:35:39 PM by slimcoder

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#80472: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:35:41 PM

Wow. Toriyama is really lazy. I know its a consistent, mostly endearing thing. But wow.

Pretty much. Masako brings it up in an old video:

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#80473: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:38:13 PM

Obviously the species that preys on Saiyans needs to be named after famous vegetarians.

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#80474: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:38:22 PM

man i miss kid goku's tail. it was always my favorite part of his design

i understand why it was phased out, but still. I love seeing modern dragon ball designs with them included (hence why i wish the saiyan tail accessory was more dynamic on saiyan characters).

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#80475: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:38:57 PM

Expect them to never be named, because pointing out that Goku never kissed his wife is a far more important bit of info.

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