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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#80351: Mar 5th 2018 at 6:33:08 PM

Whereas the Super balls can do things the characters WOULD explicitly ask for, because they've tried that in the past and been denied.

That doesn't matter if the heroes can't collect them. Goku can't breath in space or go to the sixth universe on his own.

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#80352: Mar 5th 2018 at 6:34:06 PM

Its kind of difficult to judge GT and Super because the former ended years ago, and the latter is about to finish airing. The latter is going to be fresh in everyone's minds, for better or worse, so it's flaws and virtues will standout a lot more.

I don't think a fair comparison between the two can be made until both of them have marinated a bit in our heads.

That said, I've hated and enjoyed things about both series, so it's really hard for me to say which is better or worse even when I try to be objective about it.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#80353: Mar 5th 2018 at 6:39:35 PM

GT is dark shiny.

Super is bright shiny.

What's up with that?

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#80354: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:44:24 PM

I've enjoyed the fights in Dragon Ball Super more than I remember enjoying the garbage in GT, I think. It's been a while since I've sat down and watched it though.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#80355: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:48:01 PM

Yeah I want to like GT but from all the clips I've seen on youtube the fights are just not good. Super has plenty of good fights.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80356: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:50:04 PM

Again modern animation.

The shit we can do today was unfeasible over a decade ago.

edited 5th Mar '18 7:50:26 PM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#80357: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:51:11 PM

Here's a Grand Tour fight to get you in the mood...

Don't hurt him, okay?

Super 17 is a crazy boy, hot dog.

edited 5th Mar '18 7:54:13 PM by randomness4

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#80358: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:51:30 PM

[up][up]Like using the same shot of Jiren fighting three different times in the same episode. tongue

edited 5th Mar '18 7:51:46 PM by Eagal

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#80359: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:55:17 PM

Again modern animation.

The shit we can do today was unfeasible over a decade ago.

Even compared to Dragon Ball Z fights they're lacking. I watched Piccolo vs Android 17 the other day and it looked and felt really great compared to that Goku vs Super 17 fight up there.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80360: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:56:02 PM

[up][up] Well aside from that. tongue

Reusing animation is timeless my brothas & sistas. [lol]

edited 5th Mar '18 7:56:15 PM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#80361: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:57:28 PM

[up][up]Super 17 isn't even much of a fight, like at all.

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#80362: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:58:00 PM

Wasn't the Super 17 thing a filler arc?

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#80363: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:58:59 PM

well i mean all of gt is filler really

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#80364: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:59:31 PM

It's GT...all of anything that happens matters.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80365: Mar 5th 2018 at 8:00:19 PM

Ya know I think I miss that saturated color scheme from back then.

Really has a rustic feel.

Super just feels oddly bright & shiny.

Also huh so that's where that stage from Xenoverse came from.

edited 5th Mar '18 8:07:30 PM by slimcoder

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#80366: Mar 5th 2018 at 8:23:22 PM

Super 17 arc is basically the GT of GT.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#80367: Mar 5th 2018 at 8:24:21 PM

Should a different fight from Grand Tour had been choosed?

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#80368: Mar 5th 2018 at 8:33:21 PM

Honestly Super doesn't have very good fights either. The passable fights it has are mostly just because it has so many that some of them hit the right notes.

I remember Baby Gohan vs Vegeta, Goku vs Baby and Goku/Vegeta vs Omega (post fusion) being enjoyable enough for Toei fights.

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#80369: Mar 5th 2018 at 8:34:22 PM

Universe 10 being joke characters actually makes some Fridge Brilliance when you consider Zamasu. He was shocked at Super Saiyan Goku's power. Most of Team Universe 10 would be owned by Base Goku in Super, let alone SSJ. So no wonder he didn't think a mortal could be a strong as Goku.

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#80370: Mar 5th 2018 at 8:36:12 PM

I haven't seen GT in like over 10 years, so it's hard for me to accurately judge it. I just really remember hating Funimation's Post-Faulconer original soundtrack for it and the terrible rap OP. tongue

edited 5th Mar '18 8:36:59 PM by Lionheart0

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#80371: Mar 5th 2018 at 9:00:03 PM

[up][up]

Imagine if they actually put that much thought into it.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#80372: Mar 5th 2018 at 9:07:16 PM

I actually had a funny thought: the reason Jiren lets his enemies attack with all their power and then crush it utterly is because the evil doer who killed his family and fellow students and master did the exact same thing.

This is just a theory though. I doubt either Toei or Toriyama has thought that far ahead.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#80373: Mar 5th 2018 at 9:14:15 PM

That seems humorous in the stupid way, so that could be the actual reason.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#80374: Mar 5th 2018 at 9:21:03 PM

Goku, Vegeta, and 17 vs Jiren is actually one of my favorite fights.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#80375: Mar 5th 2018 at 10:39:43 PM

Ohhhhhh now I get it (smacks fist into open palm in realization). The purpose of Vegito was to give a false hope so Future Trunks can sweep in & deal the true climactic blow.

Vegito was never meant to defeat Merged Zamasu, he was a Red Herring. Can't believe it took me this long to realize it.

Huh if that was the plan then they really should have just went with Gogeta. Would have had the same effect really & it wouldn't have destroyed the permanent Potara Fusion.

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