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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#79851: Mar 1st 2018 at 4:48:23 PM

Agreed. Toriyama is more or less done with Dragon Ball or at least he doesn't want to continue the series at all. Also, Toei will not do that either as Dragon Ball is too lucrative for Toei and remaking Dragon Ball is out of the question.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79852: Mar 1st 2018 at 5:04:10 PM

Well they could always do an Ultimate Universe if they ever want to.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#79853: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:21:23 PM

I really wish there'd been more continuity between versions. I mean, c'mon people. start one first so you have a blueprint, and then do the other one (mainly manga then anime).

I'm glad they're different. There's no point to the manga if its just a rushed version of the anime, it's better that it does its own thing to some extent. Even if I don't like everything it does there are some changes that end up being super cool.

Anyway, the retcon making Goku look like a huge asshole aside, I never bought "Goku could totally beat Majin Buu if he had wanted to". Goku never felt like he was dominating that fight. Every time Goku got a serious blow in Majin Buu pulled out even more reserves of power.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#79854: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:25:51 PM

This might have been a dub-ism, but I seem to recall Goku saying that he wasn't sure if he could have beaten Buu then. However, he still wanted the next generation to handle it because he was (at the time) actually dead, and thought it was important that everyone learn to not rely on him.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#79855: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:29:02 PM

Skidoosh.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#79856: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:30:47 PM

And I agree with that logic to be honest.

I mean, with the way the dragon ball universe works, even Goku had beaten Buu, a worse and even more powerful threat would have shown up. So having Goku beat the bad guy wouldn't have helped at all.

Edit: [nja]'ed.

edited 1st Mar '18 7:32:52 PM by HandsomeRob

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#79857: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:32:55 PM

With the way the dragon ball actually works, no matter how much Goku tries to pass the torch, it's all going to come down to him anyway

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#79858: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:33:57 PM

I'd like to rewrite Dragonball with Goku actually passing the torch here, but still making cameos in Battle of Gods and showing up for the TOP in Super.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#79859: Mar 1st 2018 at 7:55:47 PM

As much as people get on Vegeta's case about Cell, I kind of wonder if Goku would have done it any differently.

As much as a fight junkie Goku is, even at his worst he would never explicitly sacrifice someone in the name of getting a better fight.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#79860: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:00:35 PM

He does let murderers go free in hopes of getting another fight out of them, making any murders they murder in the meantime on his head.

Vegeta murders a lot of people. That's specifically who I'm thinking of.

He wouldn't stand there and watch someone get eaten, probably. But its really a matter of degree. He's okay with a person doing a murder if he doesn't have to watch it and it doesn't happen to anyone he cares about.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#79861: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:06:25 PM

He only let Vegetarian go free in hopes of fighting him again...

He let Freeza go out of some type of cruel mercy or whateva...

He let Piccoro Jr. live so Kami wouldn't die too...and would stop him again if necessary...

He wanted Gohand to kill Cell quick...no games...

He killed Boo and wished he came back goodly...

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#79862: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:08:58 PM

That Freeza thing could have really backfired if Freeza had tried pushups, situps, and plenty of juice before returning the revenge.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#79863: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:10:37 PM

He turned into a cyborg...that's almost the same thing.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79864: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:11:37 PM

He was gonna kill him though.

Future Trunks just handled things for him.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#79865: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:11:51 PM

Goku's bad moments are mostly out of ignorance, Vegeta's bad moments are him are actively him contributing to the problem.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#79866: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:12:30 PM

Wasn't the premise of Resurrection F that by training even a little bit, Freeza jumped the power gap from the namek saga all the way to battle of gods?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#79867: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:13:49 PM

Frieza didn't train though when he came back as cyborg.

As shown by Future Trunks' little test of Goku he was never a threat in the first place.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79868: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:14:40 PM

He said he was stronger as a cyborg...

Not that much stronger apparently...

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#79869: Mar 1st 2018 at 8:49:19 PM

Yeah, but he'd already lost.

As we all know, if a villain who's been defeated comes back again, he's already so far behind that it's laughable he was ever a threat.

It happened with Tao Pai Pai, it happened with Frieza the first time, and it should have stayed a thing.

But Toriyama suddenly started riding the Frieza hype train.

You could also say it happened to Pilaf. True, he was only barely a threat, but he did put Goku in a trap that would have, without a doubt killed him if not for the pure dumb luck of the full moon being on that same night.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#79870: Mar 1st 2018 at 11:13:07 PM

Of the six Gods of Destruction that were introduced and participated in the Tournament of Power(Heles, Mosco, Quitela, Sidra, Rumsshi, Belmod), which is your least favorite and favorite?

Yeah, my least and most favorite Hakaishin are the Token Evil Teammate and Token Good Teammate, and from twin universes to boot

edited 1st Mar '18 11:16:27 PM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#79871: Mar 1st 2018 at 11:17:04 PM

Favorite: Mosco. Because it kind of fascinates me how exactly he works. Does the armor enhances his power or is a limiter? Does his supreme kai know about it? Why does he wear it, and why does he communicate using beeps? Does him being a robot helps encourage the people of U3 to lean towards body modifications and robotics?

Least favorite: Quitela. Annoying, wasted potential and a shit design.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#79872: Mar 1st 2018 at 11:22:36 PM

Least Favorite: Quietla, for all the reasons said so far.

Favorite: Helles. For... reasons.

My various fanfics.
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#79873: Mar 1st 2018 at 11:26:54 PM

Just saying, Goku sparing Vegeta has always been on my top five dumbest moments of his since he spares someone the gang were totally unable to defeat except via a giant dose of luck and had Vegeta just returned to Earth to wreak revenge he would have wiped them all out with no effort.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79874: Mar 1st 2018 at 11:27:38 PM

Favorite: Sidra cause he's a pretty nice guy all things considered.

Least Favorite: Cause the rat has already been mentioned I'll go with Helles cause I could never get past her weird makeup. Also the fact the whole love shtick got really old really fast.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#79875: Mar 2nd 2018 at 12:00:57 AM

As I said earlier, a large majority of the characters problems stem largely from arrogance, negligence or ignorance. It isn't as though that Goku himself is evil but sometimes he makes decisions that endanger everyone although things do kind of workout somehow.

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