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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79551: Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:50:05 PM

Ha even more fitting. [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#79552: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:01:52 PM

It should be noted that Micheal B Jordan is also a fan of Anime.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#79553: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:21:13 PM

What I'm getting at is the Tournament of Power shouldn't have had a "no weapons" restriction. Its quite a limiting condition honestly.

Reminds me of this tweet.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#79555: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:26:02 PM

So N'Jadaka is Turles?

My various fanfics.
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#79556: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:37:51 PM

Adding further salt to the ever-so-important argument of whether Buu is psychologically attacking Gohan in a clever way:

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79557: Feb 22nd 2018 at 9:27:02 PM

You're missing the point...

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#79558: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:06:47 PM

None of the videos linked have even covered the same material where Super Buutenkscollo said his sick ass taunt.

I can tell because its just Gohan getting his ass kicked instead of Gohan in those heady minutes where he thought he would not in fact get his ass kicked.

Tangentially related, I always liked Buu bragging about absorbing Gotenks and Piccolo and Gohan counter bragging that he's stronger than Gotenks and smarter than Piccolo. And then immediately getting his ass kicked six ways to sunday.

Oh true fully unlocked mystic ultimate Gohan. You were a damp squib.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79559: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:12:50 PM

Being stronger than them doesn't really matter since...absorption adds to Boo's already high power, so that line just fell off a cliff.

edited 22nd Feb '18 10:13:39 PM by randomness4

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#79560: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:25:51 PM

And it turns out that being smarter doesn't stop you from getting your face repeatedly dragged through the dirt either.

Gohan is just a big ol' smart dummy.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#79561: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:33:06 PM

I'm amused by that trash talk. "Oh Buu you keep bragging about having Piccolo's smarts but only one of us got their degree at age 15".

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#79562: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:34:43 PM

Having a degree at 15 doesn't stop you from getting punched in the face and watching your entire family be murdered in front of you.

Thesis statement of the year.

I can tell because its just Gohan getting his ass kicked instead of Gohan in those heady minutes where he thought he would not in fact get his ass kicked.

Well this wasn't the first thing that came up, but:

Credit where credit is due this scene is badass in the Kai dub. If only the torch had truly been passed.

     

  • have Gohan still lose to Buu here
  • have Supreme Kai give Goku his life back, or have Yemma grant Goku a temporary pass like he later does Vegeta
  • Goku leaves with the Potara earrings to go and help Gohan
  • Tells Gohan what they're for
  • Fusion runs out and Buu is screwed
  • Goku lets his guard down and Buu absorbs him
  • Now Gohan is fighting Buu-ku
  • Vegeta is wished abck and joins the battle
  • Finally gets his fight to the death with "Kakarot" but no on the terms he desired
  • Goku's friendly competitiveness is the only reason Gohan and Vegeta are still alive
  • Gohan, remembering the earrings, tells Vegeta to fuse
  • Neither knows about the permanency
  • Gohan plus Vegeta equals... Gogeta?
  • They pound Buu's face in and get absorbed
  • Gohan and Vegeta fight inside of Buu, free the others, and awaken Kid Buu
  • Gohan and Vegeta have no options for dealing with Kid Buu blowing up the planet
  • Supreme Kai saves them
  • They make their last stand
  • Gohan is doing well but his stamina can't match Buu's
  • Vegeta steps in but he gets wrecked
  • Goku, awakened from his people pod, steps in and saves Vegeta
  • Vegeta has his big "you're better than me Kakarot,"
  • Maybe Goku and Gohan fight Buu together
  • Still not enough though so Spirit Bomb
  • Goku is still dead and still gets to figure in the final battle, but Gohan carries on as Earth's protector
  • Beerus still goes to King Kai to find the Super Saiyan God
  • Goku still fights him and loses
  • Beerus goes to Earth
  • Gohan still gets one-shotted
  • Shenron explains the Super Saiyan God and they do the ritual with Goku providing "assistance" from Otherworld because f'ck metaphysics
  • Gohan, Super Saiyan God, Beerus, so metal
  • Resurrection F can more or less go the same with Gohan staying home and Vegeta training maybe
  • too tired to come up with the rest but suffice to say Gohan deserved more and the only thing we'd be losing with Goku's absence would be him fighting Freeza again, and maybe Kaioken Blue, and the Satan Punch scene, and maybe Goku Black

edited 22nd Feb '18 10:52:58 PM by Soble

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#79563: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:36:53 PM

Thesis statement of the year.

Is that what he named his Kamehameha?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#79564: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:37:38 PM

Buu is well on his way to his masters in Murderonomy and Murderology

edited 22nd Feb '18 10:38:24 PM by Bocaj

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79565: Feb 22nd 2018 at 10:40:08 PM

16 still has him beat in Gokuology though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#79566: Feb 23rd 2018 at 7:10:25 AM

If I'm remembering correctly Buu didn't even absorb Piccolo for his intelligence, per se, he just wanted a more mature and level-headed element to counter Gotenks childishness and overzealousness.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#79567: Feb 23rd 2018 at 7:36:24 AM

https://twitter.com/bandainamcous/status/967036080397590528

Wonder if they are just making moves up for Ultra Instinct or are they based on things he will be doing in the anime.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#79568: Feb 23rd 2018 at 8:02:14 AM

too tired to come up with the rest but suffice to say Gohan deserved more and the only thing we'd be losing with Goku's absence would be him fighting Freeza again, and maybe Kaioken Blue, and the Satan Punch scene, and maybe Goku Black

Don't forget the Krillin Punch scene.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#79569: Feb 23rd 2018 at 8:08:03 AM

Actually you could probably remove Resurrection "F" as a whole and we'd lose nothing of any real value.

Though I'm not sure Super Saiyan God would work with Gohan as well as Goku, since for Goku it's rankling that he needed a ritual to match Beerus whereas that's how Gohan gets most of his powerups.

edited 23rd Feb '18 8:09:53 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#79570: Feb 23rd 2018 at 8:11:39 AM

Why has it taken this long for Tapion and Future Trunks to interact in something?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#79571: Feb 23rd 2018 at 8:29:58 AM

I can only really think of two. Guru and Grand Supreme Old Man.

Otherwise, Gohan trained with Piccolo and then trained with Goku and then got a new super saiyan form which is the same thing that Goku did but super-ier.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#79572: Feb 23rd 2018 at 8:46:18 AM

I kinda wonder why Goku didn't teach Gohan how to become Super Saiyan during the three year wait for the Androids. He knew Trunks could do it; why not figure Gohan could do the same?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#79573: Feb 23rd 2018 at 8:53:36 AM

[up] (4) Glass half full: it makes more sense for Gohan because he has zero qualms about receiving help, and it makes him come off more mature than his father for not bellyaching about being handed a button to stop the world from blowing up.

It also makes Gohan a little more central to the story, given that the day was saved by his and Videl's unborn child, and makes the stakes a bit more "real" because Gohan absolutely, more than ever has something to live for keep the earth from going boom for. note 

Whereas before when we find out Videl is pregnant I was like, "okay, glad the bullet didn't hit the baby or anything... that's cool? Can we get back to Beerus please?"

It's such a tonally random moment. Here's this destroyer god who just beat the f'ckty f'ck out of the party guests, Goku shows up but can't really do anything about it, they call Shenron, they can't do the ritual but happy day Videl happens to be pregnant, isn't that great note . Gohan has never felt so proud, okay happy moment's over let's take advantage of his unborn child to harness ancient, mystical power!

[up]There's only so much child abuse you can get away with when your wife is living in the same house as you. Three years wasn't enough time for Goku to emotionally abuse push Gohan through the Super Saiyan threshold.

And Gohan didn't really have any close friends to blow up either. note 

edited 23rd Feb '18 9:08:45 AM by Soble

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#79574: Feb 23rd 2018 at 9:32:03 AM

But Goku's method of teaching Gohan how to become Super Saiyan was just image training, wasn't it?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79575: Feb 23rd 2018 at 9:33:57 AM

He did nothing bad or too harsh when training his son.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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