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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79076: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:37:03 PM

His reason for turning down the tournament is because he felt that if he wins he'd essentially be murdering all the other universes.

I get why he'd not do anything. Captain America did something similar in that when faced in a situation of death or survival via the destruction of others he'd choose death.

edited 18th Feb '18 12:37:59 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#79077: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:22:17 PM

But him leaving to protect his universe would be basically dooming it. Him saying that is supposed to be oh look how much he cares about U11, but is he also willing to let them die for his own morals.

edited 18th Feb '18 2:00:30 PM by Jedi1113

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#79078: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:26:07 PM

U11. U2 is the magical girl counterpart.

Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#79079: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:47:47 PM

Christ I miss Ribrianne now.

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#79080: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:51:57 PM

[up][up][up] Kind of goes to show how much of a no-win situation this is for him… He could use the SDB to cancel the deaths of the other universes, but the two little guys would probably not like that.

edited 18th Feb '18 1:56:22 PM by Lyendith

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#79081: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:03:05 PM

@ Soble: What about having both Goku and Vegeta master Blue, but, while Goku improves upon that by going Kaioken, Vegeta improves upon that by going Super Vegeta (or however you want to call the tweak on Super Saiyan he used versus Cell) as a Super Saiyan Blue?

Cross (Don’t ask)
#79082: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:17:17 PM

[up]x5: It's doomed if the others fail.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#79083: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:18:03 PM

How many episodes are left in Super anyway?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79084: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:19:06 PM

Honestly considering how strong Toppo & Dyspo are its not like U11 is royally fucked without Jiren.

edited 18th Feb '18 2:19:18 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#79085: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:21:43 PM

[up][up]Three more. We're probably ending on 131 and we're on 128 right now. No episode next week, though.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#79086: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:22:29 PM

Hmm...we'll here's hoping the final fight looks as cool as the first one.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#79087: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:23:12 PM

[up] (6) I could see that, but, I wouldn't have Goku master Blue. No, he's got Kaioken as his trump card. Let Vegeta have Super Vegeta Blue. But I'd also still want this to be "Mastered Super Saiyan Blue" because of it being the only form to lack an aura.

I suppose it could be a matter of who draws it, but I'd vote for losing the aura over just increased muscle.

edited 18th Feb '18 2:23:25 PM by Soble

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79088: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:30:30 PM

[up][up] Hopefully it is, I mean its the only thing to look forward too at this point.

The stories fucked, there's no room for any actual character growth, the pretty animation is all we got.

Just Here For Godzilla is in full effect now cause the only reason worth watching is Ultra Instinct.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Call me Blast, not Fedetropes
#79089: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:31:03 PM

[up][up]Dunno, it's weird that goku doesn't master it considering he's the one who mastered the original super saiyan form.

edited 18th Feb '18 2:31:58 PM by Fedetropes

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#79090: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:39:45 PM

[up] Ultra Instinct is the new hotness. tongue

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#79091: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:43:22 PM

Gaining new forms just as they are about to be obsolete is kinda Vegeta's thing.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#79092: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:46:39 PM

Jiren kind of seems like a let down compared to some of the other final bosses we've gotten

For all the Buu saga's faults, he at least was some eldritch abomimation that had been used to wreak havoc on the kai hierarchy that extended from recurring character King Kai

For all of Omega Shenron's generic doomsday villaining, he took the franchise's eponymous plot device and turned it against the heroes

Jiren is just some really strong dude from another universe? So what?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#79093: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:54:52 PM

The general reception of 128 is very interesting. There have been other episdes which were more aggressively controversial, some loving it and some hating it, but this episode seems to have split the fanbase down the middle between those that absolutely love it and think it's one of the best episodes of the series yet and those that absolutely hate it and think it's a boring waste of time.

The interesting part is that there seems to be very little conflict between the two halves, regardless of how you feel about the episode, both sides have seemed to agree that it's not really worth getting angry at the other side for their drastically differing opinion.

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Call me Blast, not Fedetropes
#79094: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:07:01 PM

[up] That's seems so...unreal.

Usually when there's a split people are aggressive towards eachother.

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BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#79095: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:08:58 PM

I really do wonder if this show thinks we're stupid. I'm pretty sure everyone watching hasn't forgot about Freeza.

35 year old white man.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79096: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:10:41 PM

[up][up][up][up] Yeah Jiren really is a let-down the more you think about it. Very sad, very disappointing.

[up][up][up] This episode was pure unadulterated Vegeta wanking. Sure he didn't win but they made sure to portray his last stand as over the top as possible to make it as "beautiful" as they could. They really dragged this out just to nail it in how awesome he is with absolutely no subtlety. They brought in the works & upped the ante with shit like hearing his wife's voice & actual honest to God crying.

Your mileage will vary depending on how much you love Vegeta & his glorious jobs. If you do then you will love this episode but if you don't you will hate this episode.

[up] Most likely, the writing's not very smart after all. The amount of repetition from the peanut gallery is amazing.

edited 18th Feb '18 3:13:05 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#79097: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:16:34 PM

[up]Of all the rules the To P had. Time limit is the dumbest

35 year old white man.
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#79098: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:19:03 PM

The interesting part is that there seems to be very little conflict between the two halves, regardless of how you feel about the episode, both sides have seemed to agree that it's not really worth getting angry at the other side for their drastically differing opinion.

That's… unusual… Maybe all the aggressive commenters died during the Last Jedi Armageddon?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#79099: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:22:23 PM

I think the defeat of Toppo shattered any last delusions we may have had about how this tournament was going to go down.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#79100: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:35:35 PM

I though it was because the concept itself was great, but the execution was lacking and if we judge it on a whole, bad. Those praising it seems to consider episodes standalone in judging them.


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