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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#79026: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:34:28 AM

[up][up][up]...I don't know what animation has to do with this conversation. And they could stand to change things up a bit, but "different" is not inherently better.

edited 18th Feb '18 12:34:47 AM by LSBK

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79027: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:35:32 AM

[up][up][up]Well I'm glad someone is enjoying this week's episode.

[up] Alright, well tell me what was point of Vegeta getting beat up here then? Why is it ok to focus so much on Vegeta get beaten up? Cuz the rest of episode is just Goku also doing the same thing against the wall that is Jiren before getting the convenient power up again.

edited 18th Feb '18 12:40:17 AM by agent-trunks

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#79028: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:36:32 AM

But anyway, was the Bulma's deceased voice actress? I thought it was the replacement already. I guess I didn't know here voice very well.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#79029: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:39:03 AM

Hiromi Tsuru, Rest In Peace, voiced Bulma in this episode with prerecorded dialogue. Her replacement probably won't voice her in Super, unless Bulma appears in the last episode.

edited 18th Feb '18 12:39:37 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79030: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:39:10 AM

[up][up]She hasn't exactly been on screen in a while, so maybe lack of Blooma is also to blame.

edited 18th Feb '18 12:39:34 AM by randomness4

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79031: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:42:56 AM

[up][up]

Bulma not being the last episode would be very odd.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#79032: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:47:54 AM

I assume the problem with Vegeta getting beaten up for ten minutes for agent-trunks is because it's Vegeta, while for everyone else is because it's ten minutes.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#79033: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:48:20 AM

We all knew this was going to happen but at least Vegeta went down like a champ, Vegeta really was a bro in this episode. cool

"Mai waifu."
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79034: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:55:08 AM

[up][up] Or it's also that it went on for 10 minutes

[up] I wish I can see it like that.

edited 18th Feb '18 12:55:49 AM by agent-trunks

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#79035: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:59:30 AM

So you're saying you wouldn't mind if Vegeta get thrown off in the first five minutes so that we can get UI faster?

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79036: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:04:35 AM

Yes, or once again show the difference in Goku's prowess compare to Jiren's instead of having him whale on the Saiyans for the majority of the episodes.

edited 18th Feb '18 1:07:18 AM by agent-trunks

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#79037: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:05:38 AM

How do you propose they do that? Because it's pretty clear how strong Jiren is compared to the Saiyans.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79038: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:08:50 AM

Why not have Goku in his SSB form focus on dodging Jiren's attack instead of trying take him head on? I would even argue that something out of character for Goku since he tends identify these kinds of problems & usually find a legit solution to them.

edited 18th Feb '18 1:09:25 AM by agent-trunks

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#79039: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:10:09 AM

[up][up] It is pretty much a given, Vegeta is going to job to make Goku's fight to look better by comparison but I understand your frustration.

"Mai waifu."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79040: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:16:07 AM

It kinda seems like they're saying it didn't make a difference because they both got stomped...

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#79041: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:17:06 AM

Because Jiren can logically catch up to him and kick him off, especially since Goku shouldn't be able to go SSB with his supposed drained stamina. During a similar fight against an overwhelming enemy, which would be Freiza, he still took hits and most of his tricks only slightly injured Freiza, and Freiza had to kill him while also using a fraction of his strength and doesn't have a time limit. Jiren, on the other hand, only have to kick Goku hard enough for him to fly a few meters.

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#79042: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:30:35 AM

Why not have Goku in his SSB form focus on dodging Jiren's attack instead of trying take him head on?

That is kind of what he was doing in this episode for the very short time Goku was SSB. They didn't specifically call attention to it, but Goku was very clearly prioritizing avoiding, deflecting, or blocking Jiren's attacks over doing his own attacks. Jiren only landed two solid blows in that whole little exchange, and they immediately knocked Goku out of SSB.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79043: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:41:00 AM

[up] He was, but Goku still charged in against Jiren. Then again I suppose it would be more out of character if Goku did try to run out the time.

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#79044: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:59:21 AM

Masako X's review. He also loves the episode, calling it a "narrative triumph".

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79045: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:02:11 AM

He's not so negative...

Which is usually a positive...but not this time.

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79046: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:16:14 AM

Kinda like an opinion but I'm not one to talk.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79047: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:31:11 AM

I rely on the presence of other people's opinions for the base of anything I say that seems opinionated.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#79048: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:19:38 AM

I don't think the time-slot was ever appropriate for Super, because then it couldn't have a tone similar to the original.

And when I say 'gore' I really just mean the level of violence appropriate to the original. And even if Toriyama sets the outline, Toei could easily just not have the peanut gallery go "oh! this is so brutal!" which I highly doubt is Toriyama mandated.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#79049: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:26:27 AM

[up][up] That's actually a pretty good mindset to use. I think I'll use that.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#79050: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:30:17 AM

I don't know, if you take the show seriously then it may not be that good.

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