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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78727: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:21:18 AM

I've been wondering for some time how Cell knew about Trunks' time machine and came to certain conclusions about what happened to the androids. He spent two years eating people to get stronger, and less than a year to realize the androids are dead and Trunks is responsible. How did he figure out that Trunks used a time machine to be able to disable them, instead of just getting strong enough to do so?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78728: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:23:35 AM

There's no way the TOP was planned as a third film. It wouldn't be natural to go into that from RF, Universe 6 clearly sets it up though.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#78729: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:38:15 AM

There was a rumored third film while the Future Trunks arc was ongoing. I'm pretty sure they're talking about that, it would be in continuity with Super and it would be a continuation of it, presumably covering the Universal Survival Saga. Pretty sure that rumored film ended up being the movie that is coming out later this year, though.

Here's a thought, since Freeza told Frost that he had figured out how to use their buff state without draining ki, what if he uses that state combined with Golden to be the turning point in favor of U7 in the UI Goku vs Jiren fight? Like, he would still only be a bit above Blue, but his interference would allow Goku to turn the tables on Jiren, much like Vegeta's sneak attack on Cell.

edited 15th Feb '18 12:39:02 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#78730: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:43:34 AM

[up][up][up] I assume he didn't know and only searched for Trunks out of revenge. He overhears Trunks or see him boarding the time machine, kills him with ease and figure out he had help from the past.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78731: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:44:10 AM

Plot convenience

A time travel plot is shaky as is but when you start changing your setup midway you're lucky to wind up with anything coherent

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78732: Feb 15th 2018 at 1:12:33 AM

[up][up] Did that Trunks sit on his ass for three years and not get any stronger? At that point, Cell is at best somewhat weaker than the androids, since he needs to drink more humans to go from weaker than Kamiccolo(who is equal to Android 17) to stronger. I imagine he'd be at least a lot of trouble if he did

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#78733: Feb 15th 2018 at 1:18:21 AM

Why would he need to get stronger?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78734: Feb 15th 2018 at 1:20:39 AM

I'm thinking make this tournament more brutal cause really it doesn't feel like this epic bombastic bare-knuckle brawl last-man standing it was advertised as.

Iron Fist had a more brutal tournament arc for one.

edited 15th Feb '18 1:20:55 AM by slimcoder

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#78735: Feb 15th 2018 at 11:16:35 AM

Guys, is there any clear-cut information over what kind of "artificial human" that Androids 17, 18, and 21 are, besides being "starts with a human being as a base"? Because all the sources I could get my hand can't agree over whether or not they have robotic/non-organic within them components (obviously, Android 18 at least retains her reproductive system, otherwise we have Fridge Logic over Marron's existence; if she were adopted, you'd think someone would've mentioned it by now).

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78736: Feb 15th 2018 at 11:23:22 AM

Originally, it was just stated that their enhancements are more biological than mechanical. I believe Super said either that their blood is full of nanobots or their cells in their bloodstream are enhanced. I don't exactly remember which. They are definitely more man than machine.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#78739: Feb 15th 2018 at 11:59:53 AM

Since Super is ending, I assume this recast is for the finale of the anime.

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Formerly G.G.
#78740: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:12:18 PM

Indeed. sad Hiromi Tsuru will be missed but the show must go on

"Mai waifu."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78741: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:17:23 PM

I assume we'll hear more of her voice in the new movie & next show.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78742: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:20:48 PM

The new movie is a prequel about the Saiyans, farther back than Bardock: Father of Goku. I see no reason why Bulma would have a speaking role in it, unless it starts with Vegeta or Moori telling legends of the Saiyans or it ends with Yamoshi's spirit finding Goku for the Super Saiyan God ritual.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78743: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:21:27 PM

Supposedly, we can already hear her in a commercial for Dragonball-branded bath cleaner.

...yay capitalism?

edited 15th Feb '18 12:22:45 PM by Kayeka

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78744: Feb 15th 2018 at 12:23:31 PM

I said assume & might.

I believe this movie despite being a prequel will have some immense revelation that will turn the franchise into a new direction ending in a flash-forward to the main cast & setting things up for future shit.

[up] Huh, I'd buy that.

edited 15th Feb '18 12:24:31 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78745: Feb 15th 2018 at 2:02:25 PM

@ Ikedatakeshi: Trunks of any Bad Future should be trying to get stronger anyway to make sure the planet is defended from any potential future threats. It's why in Super Future Trunks didn't sit on his ass and trained enough that he could combat Dabura. Who is at least as strong as Perfect Cell, maybe Super Perfect Cell, both of which are stronger than Future Trunks at the end the series/when he killed the androids. The Trunks of Cell's timeline should have been just as pragmatic considering he only beat the androids with a remote switch...unless there was some sort of sneak attack by Imperfect Cell and he's just covering his ass by saying it was easy

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#78746: Feb 15th 2018 at 2:07:11 PM

Even disregarding Super, just not using Bulma in any new Dragon Ball stuff from now on didn't strike me as particularly likely.

I wish her luck.

edited 15th Feb '18 2:07:59 PM by LordVatek

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#78747: Feb 15th 2018 at 2:26:12 PM

Some of Cell, Beerus, 21, Black and Hit quotes.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#78748: Feb 15th 2018 at 3:02:13 PM

I appreciate Beerus and Hit commenting on Goku and Vegeta when they're only in SSJ mode.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78749: Feb 15th 2018 at 3:03:52 PM

[up][up][up][up] Trunks training on his own in his time line wouldn't amount to much. Future Gohan was older and he couldn't surpass the Androids. Then look at present Gohan with FPSS, ROSAT training and sparring with a fellow Super Saiyan.

It was perfectly reasonable for Cell not to expect some explosive growth from Trunks. When the future Trunks we know returned to his time, Cell was completely surprised Trunks was even powerful enough to kill the Androids.

It's perfectly consistent.

edited 15th Feb '18 3:04:21 PM by Saiga

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#78750: Feb 15th 2018 at 3:24:46 PM

And not confusing at all.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

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