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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78501: Feb 12th 2018 at 9:54:58 AM

I'd like it if Bulma or Gohan (or Bulma and Gohan working together) came out with a paper explaining S-Cells to the characters in-universe, maybe with a little less Artistic License – Biology. Maybe explain that Gohan has been using himself as a Guinea Pig to experiment with how S-Cells react and propagate in response to outside stimuli.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78502: Feb 12th 2018 at 9:58:46 AM

What is Gohan's field of study anyway?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#78503: Feb 12th 2018 at 9:59:46 AM

What, you mean "scholar" doesn't actually provide any meaningful information?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78504: Feb 12th 2018 at 10:01:47 AM

Now that I think about it, Cauli & Kale more easily becoming Supra Saiyan's makes more sense when you take into account the U6 Saiyan's most likely have easier living conditions.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#78505: Feb 12th 2018 at 10:03:29 AM

Gohan writing a book explaining Ki usage is still one of the best ideas Online ever did.

This song needs more love.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#78506: Feb 12th 2018 at 10:03:40 AM

Assuming Online still matters, he published a book explaining ki control to the layperson from a scientific point of view, so his field of expertise is probably studying super-powers in Dragon Ball, which probably amounts to a combination of biology and physics.

Slightly [nja]

edited 12th Feb '18 10:03:56 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#78507: Feb 12th 2018 at 10:05:07 AM

Gohan could very well be studying elements related to health and/or personal living. Seems like something Gohan would study and it lines up with what happened in Online (which I'm pretty sure Toriyama outlined what happened).

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#78508: Feb 12th 2018 at 10:09:43 AM

I have to wonder, when he announced his book, if he demonstrated the book's contents by flying around and firing ki blasts in front of an awestruck crowd.

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#78509: Feb 12th 2018 at 10:17:18 AM

[up]I'm imagining something more along the lines of a reporter ridiculing Gohan and his claims during a press event, and getting his toupé blown of with a ki blast.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#78511: Feb 12th 2018 at 12:59:19 PM

I found S Cells mostly unnessecary. It's pretty late to be changing the explanation for Super Saiyan, and it wasn't needed to explain away previous uses of it.

It also doesn't help the new Super Saiyans, who didn't have any SS parents to inherit from but had an extremely easy time, and it doesn't fit Gohan who was born before Goku had SS and still obtained Super Saiyan around the time of Goten and Trunks.

It'd be better if he'd done away with the inheritance factor, and focused on the peaceful environment part. I can agree that that is extremely weird for Saiyans, but it's interesting.

Though it still raises more questions than it answers - was Goku's life really more peaceful than the average Saiyan? Was Gohan's? Because despite Saiyans being a warrior race, they mostly dropped on planets, turned Oozaru and slaughtered defenseless races then returned home to rest and celebrate.

I don't know that that is significantly more stressful than the shit that Goku/Gohan went through. And Vegeta, with his battle power, should have had an extremely cruisey life before coming to Earth.

Also, wouldn't this mean Gohan's slacking off is actually good for his S cells?

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#78512: Feb 12th 2018 at 2:41:34 PM

In defense of the S-cells, it was never introduced as part of the narrative. Is mostly a manual thing that can be skipped.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78513: Feb 12th 2018 at 2:47:10 PM

Okay, okay I just noticed it.

So Jiren called Toppo a loser for casting off his ideals for greater strength yet is all about "Muh Strength" & thinks being strong is all there is. Ignoring that Toppo lost he complimented Vegeta for not putting strength above everything else as he clearly cares more about his family than strentgh. Jiren may not know this but that also means he has no reason to compliment a guy he has no idea is about.

Either Jiren's backstory did not exist at the time the episode was made or that was a very, very blatant case of Vegeta shilling.

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Ghost '11
#78514: Feb 12th 2018 at 2:49:14 PM

Or both.

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#78515: Feb 12th 2018 at 2:49:53 PM

The episodes are next to each other, so the latter and general incompetence.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78516: Feb 12th 2018 at 2:49:58 PM

Or the show has multiple writers and they're not coordinating very well. Or, probably more likely, they're not always paying attention to his backstory when writing him.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#78517: Feb 12th 2018 at 2:50:26 PM

Well its certainly something.

Another example of how that scene & ending of the fight in general fucking sucked.

Poor Toppo. sad

[up] Ya think a show this big would have more coordinated writers.

edited 12th Feb '18 2:58:19 PM by slimcoder

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#78518: Feb 12th 2018 at 2:55:34 PM

I could see them eventually revealing that Jiren has a massive case of self-loathing.

I don't expect it. But I could see it.

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#78519: Feb 12th 2018 at 3:17:43 PM

What is Gohan's field of study anyway?

He just roleplays as a having the Scholar job class from Final Fantasy.

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#78520: Feb 12th 2018 at 3:26:37 PM

"Scholar" sound like a vague job description you make up to hide the fact that you dropped out from university.

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#78521: Feb 12th 2018 at 3:31:32 PM

Chi chi must never know

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#78522: Feb 12th 2018 at 4:38:30 PM

[up][up] Now he just needs a big bookshelf he can showcase whenever he gets a TV interview. That's the most important part of being a nondescript Scholar.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78523: Feb 12th 2018 at 4:40:35 PM

One of the pictures I found during the one minute where I tried to research this, like a scholar, was Gohan posing in front of random charts and graphs

So I guess random charts and graphs can also be used to fake being a scholar

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#78524: Feb 12th 2018 at 4:42:54 PM

I'm pretty sure Chi-Chi herself has no idea what a Scholar does.

She only knows the most basic & vague trait which is simply being smart.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#78525: Feb 12th 2018 at 5:24:32 PM

[up][up] It most definitely can. tongue

So… I caught up with the manga (chapter 32) cause I don't really feel like watching 120+ episodes. If we except the first arc that's basically a summary and the Golden Freeza arc that… was skipped entirely, the rest is surprisingly decent. The U6 vs U7 tournament looks like something out of early Dragon Ball, which is quite refreshing, and I absolutely love Beerus as a character.

The Zamasu arc was… good until the literal Deus ex Machina at the end, where they prevent Zamasu from destroying the universe… by destroying the universe…? What. The positive: the clever use of background details and expansion of the universe in a way that stays in the spirit of the series. Also the really good action, like holy crap. Some parts really looked like Toriyama's art in his prime.

The negative: …It kinda feels like a rehash of the Cell and Buu sagas, except the villain has slightly more complex motivations − his hatred for mortals feels a bit forced though, considering we've never seen humanity at war in the Dragon Ball universe. Like, I can get getting rid of super violent and dangerous peoples, but the most evil humans we had seen on DB Earth were bankrobbers… not much of a case for extermination.

Also, Goku's carefreeness is really taken to disturbing extremes there. He likes fighting, okay, but in DBZ he didn't seem like the kind of guy whose reaction to the possible destruction of the universe would be "Oh man, that's a bummer." Him getting all chummy with the Supreme God of All Creation is pretty funny though. Speaking of which, I had seen Evil Gods and Jerk Gods before, but childish gods blowing stuff up because they're bored is a first to me. But I strangely like the concept.

And now it's the prologue of the Big Tournament arc and it's pretty neat so far. Both Jiren's, Caulifla's and 17's introductions were nicely done, giving us just enough of a glimpse of their character to care about them. I dunno about bringing back Freeza though… seeing Yamcha in there might have been funny. evil grin

edited 12th Feb '18 5:30:26 PM by Lyendith


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