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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#77676: Feb 6th 2018 at 6:08:44 PM

I'm not disagreeing, I meant that to be somewhat facetious by going, "ah she did that cool thing and... yeah, I got nothing else. 18 didn't contribute much at all."

I should have put an ellipsis, but then I got to wondering whether that move showed up in Fighter Z, so the phrasing wasn't exactly clear.

edited 6th Feb '18 6:12:41 PM by Soble

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#77677: Feb 6th 2018 at 6:09:36 PM

[up] Ah.

I get ya.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#77678: Feb 6th 2018 at 6:20:01 PM

That sounds more like someone taking it offensively when they really shouldn't. And memes are jokes. Jokes aren't hostile.

That is being naive. Jokes can absolutely be used hostilely, to disparage or belittle which is not even uncommon

It's a little hard to believe you're just coming in here, calling people salty who you just happen to disagree with and mean nothing by it.

No-one is getting offended, we are pointing out how you're coming across.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#77679: Feb 6th 2018 at 6:20:42 PM

Both really.

I know he's pretty involved with the manga, even if Toyotarou is the one writing it.

One Strip! One Strip!
GarnetRebeller96 Since: Nov, 2015
#77681: Feb 6th 2018 at 6:28:38 PM

It's a little hard to believe you're just coming in here, calling people salty who you just happen to disagree with and mean nothing by it. No-one is getting offended, we are pointing out how you're coming across.
.

Sounds more like a case of making something out of nothing. That along with assumptions. You can't judge tone or intent of a comment through text.

edited 6th Feb '18 6:34:47 PM by GarnetRebeller96

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#77682: Feb 6th 2018 at 6:34:06 PM

Yo know going back to the Toppo being a Hakai thing I deeper about it.

Despite what you think of the job there has to be a Destroyer. Its not something you can argue about it is a fundamental part of the universe & there must always be one.

That must be why Toppo chose to be one, cause if not him then it could be someone else & that person could be evil or a guy like Beerus.

He doesn't want to destroy things but if its there's a risk that the next God is gonna be an abusive asshole then he can't abide by that & so he must take up a job he hates so he can prevent things from becoming too bad.

edited 6th Feb '18 6:34:15 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#77683: Feb 6th 2018 at 7:47:39 PM

It seems like there is some degree of Blue-and-Orange Morality that comes with the territory of being a God of Destruction. It makes sense that a job that requires you to destroy millions of lives would also require you not to care too much about the potential lives lost. Hell, given the bios, it seems like there are three categories of God of Destruction.

There are those who just plain suck at their job or choose species to live based on utterly arbitrary standards, like Cidre, Beerus, and Champa.

There are those who run a fairly competent universe, but their bias towards one mortal trait or another keeps them out of the best universes, like Ea, Vermoud, and Helles.

Finally, there are those in the top 4, who are described as being unbiased to mortal traits and only interested in improving their universe through whatever means are necessary, such are Arak, Gene, and Liquer.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#77684: Feb 6th 2018 at 8:08:32 PM

I feel like as a GOD you'd only be eliminating species and planets that are actively detrimental to the growth of the universe- and generally speaking that would mostly be bad people.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#77685: Feb 6th 2018 at 8:46:33 PM

That really begs the question of what mortal levels quantify?

Like we get the top 4 have the highest but why are they high? What is the state of their universe, how do the people live, what exactly do you destroy to get that level?

Belmoud apparently only destroys evil but its still not high enough so is there something wrong with him specifically or his mantra of only annihilating evil?

edited 6th Feb '18 8:49:17 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#77686: Feb 6th 2018 at 8:52:38 PM

Maybe a certain amount of evil in a universe is good for it.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#77687: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:23:03 PM

What are Belmoud and Ea's traits they value?

Maybe a GOD is meant to go full Kira and destroy not just evil people but also those who aren't productive enough

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#77688: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:28:30 PM

Progress makes sense for it is above good and evil. Maybe make Utopia's all around.

From what I recall Belmoud only destroys malicious beings & the fact he has a direct relationship with a superhero group to the point of grooming their leader to replace him says it all. Basically justice I'm assuming.

Ea & by extension Mosco I'm not sure. They clearly like robots so I guess intelligence.

edited 6th Feb '18 9:28:51 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#77689: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:35:15 PM

Oh yeah, forgot that Ea is Moscow's Kaioshin

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#77690: Feb 6th 2018 at 10:32:38 PM

Yeah, Ea might not be the God of Destruction but he's clearly the face of and in charge of his universe, and he's all about them robotics.

edited 6th Feb '18 10:33:17 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#77691: Feb 7th 2018 at 2:03:02 AM

Because wiping out planets is still counter to being a hero that saves everyone. Being needed for the universe doesn't change that. And again they never presented this as a struggle on his part, he did it then acted like everything he held before was shit. I mean it really comes down to bad writing.

I feel like this goes into another writing issue in that they have a hard time writing these characters as anything more than assholes. Like Toppo's character arc is actually pretty interesting but it requires a level of nuance and complexity to get just right and Super is just incapable of that.

At this point this is perhaps the most plausible explanation on Super's writing so far. They have the good ideas but they didn't execute them very well or they really fell into certain patterns as they really bit off more than they can chew. I guess for me when it all comes down to it, I expected more from this arc and I realized that I was expecting too much from Toei/Toyotaro/whoever is writing this arc.

"Mai waifu."
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#77692: Feb 7th 2018 at 5:40:05 AM

Well, from what I heard the DBS manga takes the same ideas as the anime but executes them much better… I haven't read it yet though.

Speaking of which, for those old enough to have been around during the "Dragon Ball AF" craze. tongue

Apparently this craze spawned the artist that would become the artist of the very official DBS manga. Life's full of surprises.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#77693: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:06:23 AM

Spoilers for 128 and 129 Nothing too surprising.

Looks like 127 is 17 going out. 128 is Vegeta going out. 129 is Jiren vs Ultra Instinct -sign- Goku, and 130 will probably be Jiren vs Ultra Instinct -complete- Goku. And then 131 will be wrap up.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#77694: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:38:30 AM

Thanks Heroes for spoiling the ending to the tournament.

Looks like we get a legit Goku and Freeza team up

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#77695: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:40:52 AM

Oh crap Frieza is gonna last till the end.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#77696: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:43:19 AM

Wasn't that from like, August?

This song needs more love.
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#77697: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:43:21 AM

"Goku diligently watches Vegeta's battle! What feelings well up inside him?"

Goku: You're better than me Vegeta... you really are the coolest guy! the best!

Goku fans: WHAAAAA-

Vegeta fans: -nodding approvingly-

edited 7th Feb '18 7:54:39 AM by Soble

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Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#77698: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:48:15 AM

So, no Vegito then. When Goza?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#77699: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:52:43 AM

Where did Dragon Ball Heroes spoil the end of the tournament?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#77700: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:54:43 AM

[up][up][up]I've never mentioned this before, but I love the tactic implication you can't be a fan of both Goku and Vegeta. It's everywhere and strangely funny.

edited 7th Feb '18 7:55:25 AM by LSBK


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