The Nappa pose is the reason we know Toriyama didn't write it.
But yeah, we know Toriyama doesn't really hate or have a problem with Yamcha right? I mean, he's obviously indifferent to him to an incredible degree, but I doubt he flat out hates any character.
He definitely has his favourites though, and he's not above tossing someone under ten or twenty buses for his plot (even Got got hit with that with the Super Saiyan 3 reveal, even if only via Retcon), but I doubt he hates anyone on the roster.
One Strip! One Strip!That, and as we discussed before with the Gohan thing, he just defaults back to certain patterns at the first opportunity.
He writes a certain way, and if he can't make the character he's using work in that way, he goes back to the ones it works with.
One Strip! One Strip!That explains why so many characters are often at receiving end of so much grief.
That explains why it always appears that most arcs of the series seem to follow a similar pattern despite Dragon Ball's reputation for being "subversive".
"Mai waifu."Dragonball has a reputation for being subversive? Who ever said that?
The only way I can think of it being subversive is sometimes there's a contrast joke (like how the smaller fighter is usually more powerful, that sort of thing) but that's it.
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"Dragon Ball was subversive for its time. Every manga since then has copied it because it was a huge success.
Think Follow the Leader and "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny
"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-MaeI knew "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny was in effect, to be fair. Maybe that's just colouring my opinions. But it basically invented the genre... there's nothing really to subvert. I guess you could count Fist Of The North Star but even then I think that's more the granddaddy of battle Shonen rather than the daddy, if you catch my drift.
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"It had a story.
And stories became hip.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I don't know:
- The hero was a little kid and a total moron;
- The Old Master was an utter perv;
- The heroine was utterly selfish and immoral;
- The bad ass pretty boy turned out to be an awkward dork around women;
Did stuff like this happen in shonen back then, because if you look at it that way, it's pretty subversive.
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Given that Hokuto No Ken was only a few years older, then yeah, Dragon Ball was pretty subversive by comparison.
I actually watched a video I think by Super Eyepatch Wolf about that matter.
Basically at the time was North Star fever and so everyone followed the same beat with a brutal overpowered protag and dark material. Eventually it started falling out of favor and that's when DB came in to steal the show as everything about it felt fresh & new.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Its funny that Evangelion is now one of the major inspirations for shonen anime given that it was also twisting and subverting the Super Robot genre. Mazinger Z and Getter Robo are actually where you end up if you follow that rabbit hole back.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:07:12 PM by Zeromaeus
The Spirit Bomb Sword would count.
I still like it, even if I recognize the pure bullshit behind it.
Meanwhile:
Man, Jojo goes well with DBZ...though Roundabout is pretty old and all.
They should have waited until Goku actually fired it before going To Be Continued.
One Strip! One Strip!Would 17's barrier variations work as new techniques? His spinning one to deflect enemies, his smaller one he can encase enemies inside, and his other smaller one he can put around his hand to do a super punch are all pretty unique and new, it's just that none of them were given names.
edited 5th Feb '18 8:51:05 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Well Toriyama definitely didn't have a hand in Fighter Z cause he is awesomeness incarnate there.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."