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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#76476: Jan 28th 2018 at 3:10:22 AM

In this case the comparisons make more sense though.

In Jiren's case or Gladiator's?

What really sells it is his ethos as Jiren is a man who values life above all else & deeply devotes himself to helping people exactly like Superman. His cold exterior you can easily attribute to this being a shonen & Japanese product who usually makes rivals brooding & silent guys.

That is oddly accurate for a character that only spoke for 3 pages. Good job, have a medal [awesome]

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#76477: Jan 28th 2018 at 3:20:38 AM

[up][up]

Donations, a galactic tax...I could see it. They are a galactic police force after all.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#76478: Jan 28th 2018 at 3:21:33 AM

[up][up] In Jiren's case I mean.

Helps that the few spoken lines in his very short appearance gives us a clear, simple, direct, & succinct characterization of him. He traveled from planets across the stars to help his teammates, did not kill the monster instead just capturing it, turning down the tournament for the very moral reason that winning would condemn countless innocent people to oblivion meanings its a loss either way, & when he accepted stated that if anything, anything were to happen in his universe he would drop everything immediately & head there at once meaning that even as great as Jiren's supposed grand wish is its second fiddle to the salvation of the innocent.

All this in less than 5 pages for in those few pages you understand everything about this character & more. A pure character establishing moment.

[up] Indeed especially if some of their members are rich themselves & thus have no problem using their finances to support the PT's.

edited 28th Jan '18 3:23:02 AM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#76479: Jan 28th 2018 at 3:23:20 AM

Sounds like a "simple" character...

Avionics.

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bobg Since: Nov, 2012
#76480: Jan 28th 2018 at 3:33:35 AM

Wonder how Toppo compares to Sidra now. Frieza could contain Sidra's energy of destruction, but couldn't stop Toppo's. Of course, Sidra had no idea how powerful Frieza was and just gave the assassin leader a tiny portion of his energy, whereas Toppo knows how strong Frieza is and would not be sandbagging.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#76481: Jan 28th 2018 at 3:42:08 AM

[up][up] That's the point really.

I mean DB is not exactly the franchise you got to for complex, multi-layered characters but they have to be distinct & generally interesting.

Jiren's inherent simplicity as an unambiguous hero is interesting when you realize he is the first morally righteous rival for Goku especially since his last rival is an assassin which makes for a fun comparison.

Though it should be noted I do love superheroes so I'm biased. tongue

edited 28th Jan '18 3:47:11 AM by slimcoder

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#76482: Jan 28th 2018 at 3:51:27 AM

[up][up][up][up] It's a damn shame, but I'm still going to apply all that into Jiren's character the same way I would for Anakin Skywalker.

edited 28th Jan '18 3:52:20 AM by agent-trunks

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#76483: Jan 28th 2018 at 4:02:41 AM

[up][up]Tao can't really be seen as a rival...

He wasn't even a final boss...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#76484: Jan 28th 2018 at 4:04:08 AM

[up] Heh. tongue

Okay that's a good one. [tup]

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#76485: Jan 28th 2018 at 4:04:20 AM

[up]x5

On the contrary, since Toppo knows how strong Frieza is, he'd sandbag so as to not accidentally kill him. And Toppo did say he could kill him if he wanted to.

edited 28th Jan '18 4:04:43 AM by hardcorefakes

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#76486: Jan 28th 2018 at 4:30:28 AM

Holy cow, watching Freeza get absolutely destroyed was so damn satysfing. evil grin

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#76487: Jan 28th 2018 at 7:27:26 AM

Wasn't it though?

Especially since he thought he could block Toppo's destruction energy.

It occurs to me... Toppo continually says that he's made up his mind, and Frieza fails to stop the his destruction ball, even though he earlier stopped a similar (but smaller) attack from Sidra...who was continually shown to be indecisive as a GOD.

Fridge Brilliance about how you need resolve to be a God Of Destruction maybe?

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#76488: Jan 28th 2018 at 7:53:28 AM

Here's what I'm wondering; if Toppo becomes a God of Destruction, what'll happen to Belmod?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#76489: Jan 28th 2018 at 7:54:29 AM

I'm a little peeved at that. What was the point of Freeza being able to resist GOD-energy if the only other time it was going to matter, he fails horrendously?

I'd have preferred if he actually did resist it like before and then Toppo just bodychecks him. Same effect, but Freeza gets to back up his smacktalk.

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#76490: Jan 28th 2018 at 7:55:15 AM

I'd say the U9 assassin's subplot is pretty essential to the arc now since it set up Freeza getting destroyed by Toppo.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#76491: Jan 28th 2018 at 8:09:15 AM

Taopaipai may not have been the final boss but he was definitely the most dangerous asset the Red Ribbon army ever fielded. After fighting him Goku curbstomps the entire RR Headquarters with about zero difficulty.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#76492: Jan 28th 2018 at 8:43:33 AM

[up] Could have gone about it in a different way without Freeza screwing up hard, but still getting dominated by Justice Trooper Hulk Hogan.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#76493: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:16:24 AM

I'd have preferred if he actually did resist it like before and then Toppo just bodychecks him. Same effect, but Freeza gets to back up his smacktalk.

But I don't want him to back up his smacktalk. I super enjoyed Freeza acting arrogant again and failing spectacularly.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#76494: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:19:03 AM

A did I. The scene wouldn't have been as good if Freeza actually did suppress the Hakai.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#76495: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:26:31 AM

Freeza is the perfect heel, entertaining when winning, and absolutely spectacular when losing. Especially when he gets owned this hard.

I wonder if they going for an ending where Goku and Jiren are the only two left when the time runs out, and Universe 7 takes the win because Freeza is still on that ledge out cold and completely forgotten by everyone.

Would be funny, at least.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#76496: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:30:30 AM

"Trash belongs in the trash bin, was it?" Is one of the most savage things he's said, right next to "Aren't you the second fiddle, too?" Toppo is really good at the burns, when he wants to be.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#76497: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:32:05 AM

"Freeza, you saved all our lives!"

"Whaaaat?"

wah-waaaah

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#76498: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:38:27 AM

Though my favorite par was probably Toppo throwing a pebble sized energy destruction ball and erasing Freeza's attack.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#76499: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:42:25 AM

I'm hoping future games adapt the Aura of Destruction. A temporary buff that drains ki but makes all incoming ki attacks vaporize on contact would be pretty sweet.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#76500: Jan 28th 2018 at 9:58:01 AM

Alright. Finally watching the dub black arc.

I know that it was a bit of a bust in the end, but since I'm watching it with someone who's never watched it before, it's gonna be an interesting to see it all over again. Especially since it's the dub.

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