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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#76426: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:36:55 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] But Goku IS the strongest on the team.

It's not like 17 lasting this long makes a point about bit characters/weak characters being able to last longer in this tournament, because they made him one of the most powerful and put lots of focus on him.

Personally, I'm fine with 17 lasting this long, not because I'm a massive fan of him personally but because I think it's hilarious a bit player has hung on this long in defiance of all odds. Sometimes the unexpected tastes are the sweetest.

For that to work for me it'd have to happen in a way that makes sense. And I don't think it's unexpected at all with how constantly he has been shilled to begin with.

edited 27th Jan '18 10:37:06 PM by Saiga

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#76427: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:40:14 PM

The order of the eliminations hasn't actually mattered to me, I'm just a bit bemused by giving 17 of all characters so many moments to shine compared to most of the others.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#76428: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:41:31 PM

[up]It's reparations for Super 17.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#76429: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:46:42 PM

what was the reperations for how they treated everyone else in gt?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76430: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:47:25 PM

I feel like Toppo was blatantly flying for most of this episode. Not that this is the only time in the tournament that's been a thing.

As for Freeza and 17, my guess is that 17 eliminates but is simultaneously eliminated by Toppo next episode, and Goku and Vegeta go on to fight Jiren. Everyone forgets about Freeza since he's critically injured and off to the side, and so out of sight, out of mind. Thus opening him up to make a final betrayal right at the end of the tournament in an attempt to get his hands on the wish. Dunno whether he's going to succeed or not: it depends on what the big threat the arc is leading up to is going to be - either Freeza starts something, or the Priest starts something.

edited 27th Jan '18 10:48:17 PM by KnownUnknown

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#76431: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:51:48 PM

next ep seems to be a vegeta ep, and based on the title of 127 using the word for barrier, it seems 17 is gonna last till then

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#76432: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:52:59 PM

[up][up]Shit, I keep forgetting that they aren't supposed to be flying.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#76433: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:55:13 PM

I mean zeno would let it slide because it's neat, but it hasnt even been brought up

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#76434: Jan 27th 2018 at 10:55:47 PM

It's such a forgettable rule restriction...

As long as they're pushed outside of the arena, they'd be disqualified anyway since there's no other ground.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#76435: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:01:16 PM

Slow and steady wins the race, 17 should win the whole thing.

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#76436: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:01:54 PM

It's also less that they're not allowed to fly and more that they're physically incapable of flight. Toppo was jumping off of the remains of the arena... about as convincingly as Jotaro and Dio "jumped" off of the buildings in their fight but still.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#76437: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:02:20 PM

cant vegeta just get bulma to buy him a boat?

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#76438: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:03:34 PM

Probably? I'm not sure of the relevance. 17 is the one who wants a boat.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76439: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:06:01 PM

Toppo was pretty clearly using flight to propel himself across the arena during various points at the fight - it's really noticeable during the points where he's chasing Freeza and 17, iirc.

I feel like the artists either forgot about the restriction or, more likely, just wanted to go all out in making Toppo's transformation impressive, and fudged the rules because they were getting in the way of that.

edited 27th Jan '18 11:07:36 PM by KnownUnknown

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#76440: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:08:25 PM

It's reparations for Super 17.

Ah, that explains it.


I think what stands out most about 17 is that, the start of the arc was really making it seems like Gohan was going to be the one to make it to the end with Goku. So it's not just that he outlasted Gohan, but outside of Vegeta he's also teamed up with Goku the most throughout the tournament. tongue

I like 17, so I'm actually reveling in the shilling, but yeah it is odd lol

edited 27th Jan '18 11:08:51 PM by Lionheart0

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#76441: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:11:38 PM

@Saiga: Wasn't talking about Universes 7 and 11, was talking about the ones that were eliminated.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#76442: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:13:35 PM

Also, I get that he was pissed and not thinking clearly, but what in the world makes Frieza think that "the power to destroy even a planet!" is at all impressive anymore? That was silly, maybe intentionally, maybe not.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#76443: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:19:41 PM

Yeah, but he was faking how bad of an injury a huge hole in him is, and was holding back so much power that he totally could've tanked it, if he didn't underestimate Vegeta.

A bit late, but that was the first time that Cell had ever been injured that badly. Even if he regenerates from it, I imagine it was a bit of a surprise getting hit that hard. There's a reason he goes "Oh shit" in a good number of translations of that scene. And the original Japanese as well, if I'm not mistaken.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#76444: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:21:50 PM

[up][up]I laughed when Toppo used a comically tiny bit of destruction energy to destroy Frieza's blast.

edited 27th Jan '18 11:22:17 PM by Moth13

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#76445: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:22:34 PM

[up][up][up] It's kind of his go-to move when he's exceptionally pissed off & backed into a corner. tongue

edited 27th Jan '18 11:23:19 PM by Lionheart0

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76447: Jan 27th 2018 at 11:31:10 PM

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#76448: Jan 28th 2018 at 12:35:37 AM

I still find it sad that people are being angry that non sayian characters are mattering [lol]

I think its good thing that after saying "Oh infinite energy is useful in hour long battle royale since they won't get tired" that its actually the case and is shown in practice

edited 28th Jan '18 12:36:31 AM by SpookyMask

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#76449: Jan 28th 2018 at 12:40:08 AM

Ah its gonna be nice hearing Chuck Huber voice 17 for Super.

I always loved his voice, so calm & mellow yet undeniably smug.

Fitting for a teenage punk really even if 17 wasn't exactly a teenager back then.

edited 28th Jan '18 12:43:53 AM by slimcoder

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#76450: Jan 28th 2018 at 12:41:41 AM

I just can't wait to see how they'll get for Jiren and Toppo. Jiren is probably the last chance for Liam O'Brien to voice a Dragon Ball character after they DIDN'T GET HIM FOR ZAMASU...I mean, I'm not at all bitter about that, nope nope.


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