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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#76151: Jan 24th 2018 at 4:52:03 PM

I'd argue World's Strongest and Dead Zone have the best environments, but Bojack's good for that as well.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#76152: Jan 24th 2018 at 4:52:25 PM

[up][up][up][up]Super Buu with no personality isn't Super Buu.

edited 24th Jan '18 4:52:33 PM by LordVatek

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#76153: Jan 24th 2018 at 4:56:24 PM

I like most of the movies starting from Cooler's Revenge. They aren't always consistent, but I could go on all day about how inconsistent this franchise is. The gags, fight sequences, and animation of the later films makes up for their deficiencies. Some of the most intense fight sequences and song choices come from the films.

Dragonball's got more films than pretty much any other shonen series, so I'd wager it's resonated well with the fanbase overall or else they wouldn't waste the money.

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#76154: Jan 24th 2018 at 4:58:14 PM

Janemba literally looks like Super Buu, but with more shit added on. Janempa's resemblance to Fat Buu is so obvious it shouldn't even need to be mentioned.

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#76155: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:00:36 PM

Why does he speak da language of pokémon?

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#76156: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:02:37 PM

[up][up]Yes they both... lack a nose... Yeah no arguments about Janemba's first form when compared to Fat Buu but you're seriously going have to explain how Super Janemba looks like Super Buu.

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#76157: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:06:57 PM

Garlic Jr. is Piccolo, but short.

He's more like Pilaf than anything.

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#76158: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:11:25 PM

[up][up]They're both around the same height, they have almost the exact same facial features, not just the nose, but the eye shape and mouths too. They have the EXACT same abdomen, drawn exactly the same. They have the same exact body structure and proportions, too. Janemba looks like if you took a picture of Super Buu and changed his color and gave him a chin, horns, armor, ears, and a tail.

edited 24th Jan '18 5:13:17 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#76159: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:32:17 PM

[up]By that logic, Perfect Cell looks exactly like Frieza if you added wings, a head thing, an exoskeleton, changed his color, and took away the lipstick and tail.

edited 24th Jan '18 5:32:54 PM by LordVatek

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#76160: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:33:40 PM

The only similarity they have is that their pink & even then its a different shade of pink.

Change Janemba's color & you couldn't even compare him to Buu.

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#76161: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:34:39 PM

Cell and Freeza have completely different body structures and much of their facial features are drawn differently. Janemba looks like if you took a picture of Super Buu and just scribbled cool demon stuff all over him.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#76162: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:36:15 PM

Nah, that carapace makes him look totally different. It's an entirely different aesthetic.

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#76163: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:49:29 PM

Yeah I've been comparing pictures of the two of them and I just do not see it at all.

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#76164: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:51:05 PM

they both got angry eyes

legs. arms. both got those.

that's about it.

edited 24th Jan '18 5:51:31 PM by EpicBleye

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#76165: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:53:50 PM

Again, same proportions, same face, exact same way the abdomen is drawn, same height.

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#76166: Jan 24th 2018 at 5:58:49 PM

Wow, human-like proportions. Thank god no other villain in the series has that.

Their faces are completely different- they both don't have a nose, but their eye shape is different, their ears are different, mouth and chin shapes are different

Their abdomens are MAYBE similar in shape... but so is every other unshirted character's.

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#76167: Jan 24th 2018 at 6:02:09 PM

Even if I agreed that they have the same face (which I don't), half the cast has the same face so that's hardly special.

edited 24th Jan '18 6:02:20 PM by LordVatek

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#76168: Jan 24th 2018 at 6:06:54 PM

Janemba's forms evoke a similar shift in design philosophy that Majin Buu shares. If this is strickly about the question then no, Super Janemba doesn't look like Super Buu, but the intention to call back to him is there.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#76169: Jan 24th 2018 at 6:13:05 PM

[up][up] Man can adding a chin & nose make a character look so different.

I am referring to the difference in appearance between regular Super Buu & Super Gohan Buu.

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#76170: Jan 24th 2018 at 6:34:29 PM

All the old movies are heavily infuenced by canon arcs, either in the villains or the general plot outline.

Like the vast majority of EU materials (and even some manga materials).

Bojack isn't a super interesting guy but he has a pretty strong 'dirty fighter' motif between the ambushes and attacking through his allies which fits the space pirate idea. His design is also pretty cool, which makes him a serviceable villain for what is otherwise a pretty good movie. The fight choreography, new costumes and scenery are all really nice and it's a good Gohan story.

Wrath of the Dragon is the movie that feels most like a 'movie' for me, in terms of pacing and structure. Didn't use the characters as well as it could have but still had nice development for Trunks and Tapion. I liked that Bulma had an active role in assisting Tapion as well.

I am not as hard on Lord Slug as most because I see the similarities the other novies have to other characters/storylines, so Slug is only so much worse about it. The whistling weakness was a novel idea and his henchmen/terraforming schtick was a bit more interesting. I like that they reference the idea of powering the Genki Dama with the sun, and for some reason I really like the opening scene where they deal with a meteor. Also, the English soundtrack was really good for this movie.

None of the movies are GREAT, the derivative nature holds them back, and they have a lot of problems that most Toei DB products have - the fights don't fit the manga way, which often means they're really dumb or don't seem well thought out.

But they generally offer pretty cool scenery, and can be a fun romp with the characters that's largely inoffensive. And it's kind of sad to highlight that as a positive, but compared to other Toei works which can get downright bad, I feel it's worth mentioning.

edited 24th Jan '18 6:36:09 PM by Saiga

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#76171: Jan 24th 2018 at 6:35:21 PM

Their mouths and teeth are exactly the same.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#76172: Jan 24th 2018 at 6:39:23 PM

Which is fine...

Group up those examples, one at a time doesn't work.

edited 24th Jan '18 6:40:03 PM by randomness4

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#76173: Jan 24th 2018 at 6:59:16 PM

Also, Cell is tall while Freeza is kind of a shorty. He's more or less eye-to-eye with Vegeta, but Goku towers a full head over him, while Perfect Cell is almost a head taller than Goku. Freeza and Cell have the same kind of colored-pecs-with-a-triangle-beneath thing on the chest, but the similarities end there.

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#76174: Jan 24th 2018 at 7:03:04 PM

I was very surprised to learn Slug was made between the first mention and first actual appearance of Super Saiyan, so the transformation in the movie was intended to be it. Which is... pretty audacious of the movie writers to try to beat Toriyama to the punch there. The reference books later retconned it to an "almost but not quite" form called Pseudo-Super Saiyan.

edited 24th Jan '18 7:11:33 PM by HamburgerTime

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#76175: Jan 24th 2018 at 7:09:21 PM

The same thing happened with Goku and Vegeta's dance fusion and Fusion Reborn. It's fairly obvious that Gotenks was supposed to be foreshadowing for Goku and Vegeta doing the same but Toei beat Toriyama to the punch.

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