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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#76001: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:18:37 PM

Trunks also started out as really weak, possibly weaker than Gohan when Gohan was at that age.

Honestly, each of the first four people to get it got it from being really emotional; Trunks just had the best set up (in the anime.)

Like, I guess you could say it's contradictory with the Buu saga, but that hadn't been written yet I believe when the anime special aired and either way, I find Goten and Trunks in that to get it waaay too easily and I know I am not the only person to believe that.

edited 21st Jan '18 4:23:04 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#76002: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:20:07 PM

I don't think I've ever seen anyone give Future Trunks shit for starting out wimpier compared to everyone else.

People are just understanding of his situation.

edited 21st Jan '18 4:20:17 PM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#76003: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:31:08 PM

[up][up][up] It's not about him being a wimp, it's about how difficult it was for him compared to every Saiyan since then.

I don't think it would improve the series to attempt to make every Saiyan transformation require that much emotion to work.

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#76004: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:34:57 PM

Gohan and Vegeta also transformed for the first time off-panel, in ambiguous circumstances. Goku and Cabba are the only Super Saiyans in the manga who had to get an intense emotional trigger to go Super Saiyan 1 for the first time.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#76005: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:37:29 PM

Its not hard to believe that some people have a harder time at unlocking it than others.

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#76006: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:39:07 PM

Just because I can learn Spanish, and you can learn Spanish, doesn't mean we'll learn it at the exact same rate.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#76007: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:46:59 PM

Plus since the manga glosses over how Gohan and Vegeta did it, we can’t assume it was easy for them.

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#76008: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:49:33 PM

We can't just assume it was hard, either.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#76009: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:50:37 PM

Yeah except it's not the difference between two different people but also the difference between the same person across different times.

And I think it's just better not to have the transformation on so high a pedestal that it is difficult to actually USE it in your story.

edited 21st Jan '18 4:51:10 PM by Saiga

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#76010: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:51:48 PM

Well, Future!Trunks could likely benefit from the same thing that made current Trunks and Goten be able to do it so easily. Gohan and Vegeta are more ambiguous, I'd think, but since the story doesn't dwell on it, probably not.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#76011: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:56:24 PM

Also present Gohan does it on-screen, that tends to be glossed over.

The way I see it, is that when you have the time to train for it, you can do so that way. The emotional moments for Goku and Gohan worked because they pushed them to that stage without having the opportunity to train for it when they needed it.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#76012: Jan 21st 2018 at 5:02:23 PM

And F. Trunks didn't really have proper training for it either.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#76013: Jan 21st 2018 at 5:27:53 PM

He had Gohan traning him and a lot of time to do it with

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#76014: Jan 21st 2018 at 5:33:52 PM

I feel it works for Trunks. You get the emotional catharsis and it makes his confrontation with the Androids a bit more meaningful.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#76015: Jan 21st 2018 at 5:41:41 PM

Speaking of Gohan, here's a weird bit of trivia I just remembered. Before she hit it big as a voice actress, Saffron Henderson, Kid Gohan's dub voice, appeared as a victim in Friday the 13th 8. Jason Voorhees beat her to death with a guitar.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
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#76016: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:03:53 PM

Well that just depressing.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#76017: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:09:24 PM

Has anyone thought what the Buu Saga would be like if Majin Vegeta's sacrifice actually killed Buu?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#76018: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:09:51 PM

The series would end earlier.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#76019: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:10:30 PM

I mean, it would be over then, so pretty boring in comparison. Unless you meant like "Buu dies, but Babidi is still around and does other stuff" or something like that?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#76020: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:11:19 PM

Doesn't seem fitting to let Vegeta beat the main villain after just going and being an evil dick like 10 minutes prior.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#76021: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:12:59 PM

You'd have to change & move several things around to make it a fitting & satisfying climax.

edited 21st Jan '18 6:13:28 PM by slimcoder

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#76022: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:14:39 PM

Well, he'd be dead.

I'm more interested in the change to the series status quo after it; no Goku, no Vegeta. What would that look like?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#76023: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:19:46 PM

You know, since Super is just ending I actually do find it slightly plausible that the erased Universes and people just stay erased, and that's kind of hilarious. Maybe they bring back the Universe 6 Saiyans and move their planet to Universe 7 but that's it.

edited 21st Jan '18 6:25:33 PM by LSBK

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#76024: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:23:23 PM

Hopefully they do stay erased...nothing good would come from them getting brought back.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#76025: Jan 21st 2018 at 6:27:41 PM

I reckon Zeno's gonna bring them back, everyone's going to be like "WAAAAAT" and he's going to reveal he only held the tournament because he wanted to see them fight like their lives depended on it.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

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