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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#75926: Jan 21st 2018 at 8:44:56 AM

Considering the memes, 4chan is excited, but for different reasons.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75927: Jan 21st 2018 at 9:10:16 AM

Yeah, I don't get it either. The only complaint I have is that Freeza eliminating Gohan and Dyspo was framed a little too quickly. I guess people really were expecting Gohan to win the whole tournament by himself. *he says, knowing full well that he used to push a theory that Gohan would win the whole tournament by himself based solely on a poor translation of the opening's lyrics* Wonder where they got that from.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#75928: Jan 21st 2018 at 9:45:31 AM

Ya know, while I like how FighterZ is bringing more people into Dragon Ball, I don't like how some of them spout random info as if they're facts just because they hear it from someone else and then say "I will never watch the show." Like goddamn, if you're gonna bash something despite not having seen it, then why do they fact check before saying something? Episode of Bardock is not canon and has nothing to do with S-Cells, ya goddamn idjits!

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75929: Jan 21st 2018 at 9:47:32 AM

That's always the case when you bring in a ton of newcomers to a franchise.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75930: Jan 21st 2018 at 10:12:33 AM

I hadn't thought of that, but S-Cells really do make Episode of Bardock work a little bit better. Still doesn't explain how an exploding planet was enough to send Bardock back in time, though, or justify the sheer pandering-ness of the concept.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#75931: Jan 21st 2018 at 10:14:27 AM

It happened with me and Star Wars: I loved the cartoon and videogames, didn't really care about the original trilogy. Now that changed a little, but I still don't care about the expanded universe of the original trilogy.

[up] Just picture Episode of Bardock as a Stealth Prequel to the Xenoverse games, and just think A Wizard Did It (The wizard being Towa).

edited 21st Jan '18 10:15:27 AM by Tomodachi

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#75932: Jan 21st 2018 at 10:34:29 AM

Don't S-cells kinda work, as Super Saiyans are implied to be of biological nature? The force being reliant on organelles was an asspull because Star Wars is Fantasy IN SPACE, but Dragon Ball, specially the latter half, borrows heavily from Sci Fi.

I mean, using cells as an explanation is consistent with having an antagonist named Cell and built from the cells of other individuals. If having Goku's cells allowed Cell to use the Kamehameha, I can surely buy a transformation of a biological nature being based on that.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#75933: Jan 21st 2018 at 10:36:29 AM

Goku's cells didn't allow Cell to use the Kamehameha. He's simply seen it be used. He can copy moves from only seeing them once.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75934: Jan 21st 2018 at 10:38:18 AM

What? No, Cell knew all their attacks through genetic memory. That's the canon explanation. His Kamehameha was weak-sauce at first because his Goku cells were taken from an earlier point in Goku's life.

edited 21st Jan '18 10:40:22 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#75935: Jan 21st 2018 at 10:39:12 AM

I mean, yeah, S-Cells do make Episode of Bardock more explainable. But those people thought that EOB was a canon explanation for S-Cells just because their Tien-chugging friend told them, despite the fact that it came out in 2010 and S-Cell was just barely explained last month.

edited 21st Jan '18 10:40:06 AM by Rinsankajugin

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#75936: Jan 21st 2018 at 11:05:00 AM

Is genetic memory a real thing, or something Metal Gear created?

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#75937: Jan 21st 2018 at 11:17:42 AM

Genetic memory is not a real thing, and if that's supposed to be the canon reason Cell knows those abilities that's absolutely asinine.

edited 21st Jan '18 11:18:11 AM by Sigilbreaker26

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#75938: Jan 21st 2018 at 11:20:20 AM

But the meme theory is real, right?

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#75939: Jan 21st 2018 at 11:22:56 AM

Nice to know we've been having the nice, respectful, even-handed conversations in here that we always do.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75940: Jan 21st 2018 at 11:25:27 AM

I agree that it's asinine, but genetic memory is the canon explanation for how Cell knows everyone's moves.

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#75941: Jan 21st 2018 at 11:44:21 AM

I'm going to laugh my ass off if Toppo goes G.O.D and Hakais Frieza out of existence, and Zen-Oh does it too to him.

Meaning Frieza is gone forever, and Universe 11 now doesn't have a G.O.D succesor.

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#75942: Jan 21st 2018 at 11:49:27 AM

https://kairi-yajuu.tumblr.com/post/169969898642/shounenchild-kairi-yajuu-quantum-kakarotto

They changed goku's line in fighterz

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#75943: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:02:29 PM

It's not as funny anymore, but that's way more in character.

As far as Cell using people's techniques goes, wasn't their something about him matching their ki signature or something whenever he used an attack? I don't think TFS made that up, and if so him being made up of all of their "cells" (which still bothers me by the way) kind of sort of explains that, I guess?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#75944: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:04:50 PM

[up][up] Cowards

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#75945: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:36:26 PM

[up][up][up] Nice.

Also genetic memory isn't real but neither is creating clones out of a bunch of DNA samples mashed together. Seems kind of arbitrary where you join the line.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75946: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:42:54 PM

Sure the original line was mean but Goku wasn't wrong.

First fuck-up understandable relatively, second fuck-up inexcusable.

[up] Indeed this is fiction after all. Not the first time it uses theoretical concepts as if there real.

edited 21st Jan '18 12:43:44 PM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#75947: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:45:10 PM

Changing it isn't a fuck up. It's good for them to fix their original poor decision.

I don't particularly want OOC memes

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#75948: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:46:23 PM

Going back to how the peanut gallery during the Tournament is annoying, them only focusing on what the episode is focusing on basically makes it seem like nothing else is actually happening. Like, did Jiren vs. Goku and Vegeta just stop? Because I kind of feel the crowd would be more interested in what was going on there.

edited 21st Jan '18 12:51:10 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75949: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:48:07 PM

[up][up] Fair enough.

[up] Oh yeah that is bizarre.

Shows how very..... I'm gonna say "plot-forced" these episodes are, doesn't feel organic.

edited 21st Jan '18 12:50:16 PM by slimcoder

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#75950: Jan 21st 2018 at 12:49:08 PM

Also shows how annoying the greek chorus is. I know it's for padding purposes but it really damages fights and Super suffers from it even more than the average anime.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

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