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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75651: Jan 17th 2018 at 6:41:58 PM

Ah.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#75652: Jan 17th 2018 at 7:11:11 PM

I know that kart game is a joke, but I would actually be totally down for a Dragon Ball racing game. Maybe not in the Kart style, though.

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#75653: Jan 17th 2018 at 7:14:23 PM

[up] Ginyu would be worse than a blue shell, switching places with the leading racer.

Freeza's laugh would be a hilarious, but effective taunt.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#75654: Jan 17th 2018 at 7:24:46 PM

So, no one is going to mention the fact the name of the king is Sadala?

Quoting Abridged, that's a girls name.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#75655: Jan 17th 2018 at 7:35:18 PM

[up][up][up] Its a joke, but its also a real mod you can download for MK 64. Check the description of the video.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#75656: Jan 17th 2018 at 9:06:00 PM

No surprise the manga skips through stuff. We already saw it all months ago, same reason there was little mystery to Black in it. Of course it ks streamlined when at this point it has already all been covered.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#75657: Jan 17th 2018 at 9:30:57 PM

Not to mention that the recruitment felt like its own filler arc. It wasn't necessary.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#75658: Jan 17th 2018 at 9:33:44 PM

Necessary for which universes...?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#75659: Jan 17th 2018 at 9:44:10 PM

I fully admit that the Space Poachers and Yurin were unnecessary, but the manga skipping Goku vs Krillin, Goku vs Gohan, Freeza vs the U9 Assassins, and much of the other Universe's recruitment is a big strike against it, because those were handled so well in the anime and the manga just dropped the ball because it feels the need to rush through everything.

The best possible version of Super would be somewhere in-between the anime's slow pace and the manga's fast pace, but I'd say that, of the two, the anime's pace is better. The manga just rushes through stuff way too fast to really get much of anything out of it one way or another, while the anime takes more risks and has some lows, but it also has some great highs that the manga doesn't even bother attempting.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#75660: Jan 17th 2018 at 9:55:18 PM

What did Goku vs. Krillin or Gohan, or Frieza killing a bunch of assassins actually add, would be my question?

I enjoyed Frieza showing off but it was still ultimately pretty pointless, and I the first two don't even have that going for them.

edited 17th Jan '18 9:55:36 PM by LSBK

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#75661: Jan 17th 2018 at 10:00:08 PM

The only thing removed was the pandering/fan-service and padding. Or have we forgotten that people were tired of this arc before the tournament ever started.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75662: Jan 17th 2018 at 10:02:26 PM

At the very least were getting to the important bits.

Now we can finally see how Toyotaro is gonna handle this tournament.

My hope lies in it being something epic.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#75663: Jan 17th 2018 at 10:03:54 PM

Nice character moments and cool fights are good additions in and of themselves.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#75665: Jan 17th 2018 at 10:32:56 PM

Half...?

Character moments in DB, don't be ridiculed...it's too late for such a thing.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#75666: Jan 17th 2018 at 10:38:05 PM

The only thing removed was the pandering/fan-service and padding

whats the point of a db continuation in this year if not for pandering fan service?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#75667: Jan 17th 2018 at 10:39:25 PM

For making a new story out of nothing...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75668: Jan 17th 2018 at 10:40:55 PM

Well it is a tournament arc after all.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#75669: Jan 17th 2018 at 11:32:54 PM

Character moments and cool fights are only as good if they add anything to the story. Otherwise, it's wasting our time.

The only loss I will cite as being big is Goku vs. Gohan, but considering how much the Anime dropped the ball with him and his highly probable elimination this weekend, cutting out his bit seems appropriate. If anything, the Anime made him feel more important than he actually was (Hey, remember when he was supposed to be the "Team Captain" :V)

Goku and Freeza against the Assassins was pointless, nothing came from it and Freeza ended up joining anyway. That said, I do feel they glossed over a few things, but nothing major.

Goku vs. Krillin was also pointless for a similar reason to Gohan, except in this case there was absolutely no reason to believe Krillin was going to contribute. Hell, he only beats two opponents before he goes out. So what's even point of building him up? The Manga changes Goku's reasoning for even recruiting him citing he's "good at running away" rather than "Good with skils" that the Anime tried to play up but ultimately never followed up on.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#75670: Jan 17th 2018 at 11:36:21 PM

Character moments and cool fights are only as good if they add anything to the story. Otherwise, it's wasting our time.

That, to be honest, depends entirely on how the story itself is plotted. The Super anime is written often in a more episodic way with a lot of character emphasis, such that the character moments often are in essence the plot - whether or not a person enjoys that is up to them, but that is the way it tends to interpret the stories Toriyama gives them - and it's especially noticeable in the TOP where the actual plotline as interpreted by Toei is repetitive and lacking in substance, and the anime intends for us to find consistency and closure through the character reactions to things instead.

Granted, it doesn't really succeed at being the kind of story it wants to be either, but it's still trying to be that kind of story.

The manga itself seems to be going for a more specifically macro/arc driven approach with less character focus, as Dragonball was written previously, so it has no use for the character moments, but that's because it's written that way.

edited 17th Jan '18 11:46:22 PM by KnownUnknown

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#75671: Jan 17th 2018 at 11:56:32 PM

What did Goku vs. Krillin or Gohan, or Frieza killing a bunch of assassins actually add, would be my question? I enjoyed Frieza showing off but it was still ultimately pretty pointless, and I the first two don't even have that going for them.

That glorious transformation sequence. tongue

But yeah, it was mostly just to highlight the whole "I dunno, Freeza might have ulterior motives" which goes without saying, so yeah it could've been cut.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#75672: Jan 17th 2018 at 11:58:45 PM

Goku and Freeza still fight but it's also offscreen and no assassination subplot. Agreement is the same however.

But that was the best part...

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#75673: Jan 18th 2018 at 3:50:06 AM

So recruiting 17 & finding out what he's been doing was a filler episode? I can admit space poaching & Yurin were pointless fillers, but Krillin's shows he was focusing more on his training & tactics, Gohan was to show how much more powerful he became during his training with Piccolo, & Freeza was to show how risky & dangerous he to be part of Team U7.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#75674: Jan 18th 2018 at 4:14:34 AM

Oh look, the manga is rushed and bland again. What's new?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75675: Jan 18th 2018 at 4:42:26 AM

Dragon Ball fans sometimes remind me of parents watching their little kids perform at school plays.


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