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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75576: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:25:47 AM

I would be shocked if Funimation didn't know about the response to that line and included it specifically to reference the response rather than the line itself. There's no real reason to include that particular line in the game and especially not using it as a win quote against 18 if it's not a reference to the controversy. Funimation is also pretty in-touch with the fanbase.

edited 16th Jan '18 5:27:48 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#75577: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:27:44 AM

I don't even think the line IS that controversial in the larger fanbase. I'd also be surprised if that wasn't there in the original, since it's referencing a specific scene they'd have to outright change it rather than just slightly changing Goku's line.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75578: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:29:38 AM

Funimation also said they were taking a few liberties with the dub to add memes and jokes. Anyone know what the Japanese version of that win quote is?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75579: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:29:40 AM

Well the line came from a minor scene all things considered.

Was it stupid & a waste of a good character, yes.

But its not like changing it would have made Resurrection F that much better.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#75580: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:31:23 AM

[up][up] But that wouldn't be a liberty, is what I was saying. The Japanese line would have to be completely different not to be a reference, and I doubt what they'd do is replace the sentence completely.

I don't have access to the beta so I'd be unable to check.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75581: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:45:18 AM

CAC male Voice number 8 was not TFS Nappa in Japanese Xenoverse, and many of Voice 8's lines are references to TFS. Funimation can and will flat-out change dialogue into something funnier if it's a relatively inconsequential change.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#75582: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:47:04 AM

But its not like changing it would have made Resurrection F that much better.

Are you talking about the movie or the arc? Because I remember the former being really enjoyable and the latter being a chore to get through.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75583: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:47:55 AM

Well the show of course.

I rather liked the movie as well.

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#75584: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:49:54 AM

The show version just piled on to the movie's existing flaws and has all of the problem Super had as a whole. At least the movie has better animation and better pacing.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#75585: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:50:22 AM

[up][up][up][up] That is a huge difference. The CAC voices were fairly generic and it was mostly Takahata ad libbing his lines. You're talking about consciously changing a line of dialogue for a main character for a completely different line to specifically reference one scene based on the western reaction to it.

[up][up][up] Honestly they're both really really bad to me. But at least the movie is short.

edited 16th Jan '18 5:51:06 AM by Saiga

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#75586: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:52:54 AM

I really just liked the animation though the final battle with Frieza was anti-climactic.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75587: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:56:06 AM

I'm also pretty sure most of the reason Cell is fantastic in Xenoverse is because of Dameon Clarke being told to go nuts.

Even if it's not Funimation's doing, Xenoverse had Cell and Broly act like a tsundere and a yandere, respectively, when mentoring you, I could see the Japanese developers adding memes of their own in. Again, I can't think of any reason to include this line in particular as a win quote against 18 if it's not specifically a shout-out to how the original line sounded to many like a shot against 18.

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#75588: Jan 16th 2018 at 5:57:35 AM

[up][up] Yeah, I remember the animation being pretty tight.

My favorite part was the scene of Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, Roshi and Jaco going to town on all the mooks.

edited 16th Jan '18 5:57:48 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#75589: Jan 16th 2018 at 6:00:20 AM

[up][up] See none of those examples are specific references to dialogue from the series.

Which makes me feel much more likely this isn't included as a meme, but just as a reference to make Kuririn look cool (like the intent of the original scene).

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#75590: Jan 16th 2018 at 6:40:55 AM

I can see the Japanese developers having no problem with it. Why would they care about how westerners feel about it?

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#75591: Jan 16th 2018 at 7:53:58 AM

They don't.

And not for nothing, but that line isn't all that controversial to begin with. I know it's stupid, but it's not like there's been some big uproar over it, so Funimation wasn't wrong for putting it in.

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#75592: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:22:21 AM

Another headcanon I had was that Dr. Rota broke Champa's leg one day and that's why Champa decided to put him in the Tournament of Power :/

Btw, I don't think is that big of a deal. Is douchy, yeah, but as long as you know is just a localization thing, is nothing to worry about.

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#75593: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:25:16 AM

Do- do you mean that he fixed Champa's broken leg, or that Dr. Rota broke a God of Destruction's leg?

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#75594: Jan 16th 2018 at 8:29:39 AM

Yes.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
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#75595: Jan 16th 2018 at 9:09:25 AM

[up] That's the best explanation for his boasting I've seen thus far. I could see Champa as the type to let his guard down to the level of Goku and Krillin in those infamous bullet scenes.

I know the Create your own ki attack conversation was a while ago but I'd like to add in my ideas:

One would be a ki attack that looks like the standard beam or giant orb but leaves behind "ki flames" when it hits someone, the fire could either drain the person's ki or just damage their body while being difficult to put out. I just like the image of ki attacks that leave behind flames.

The other idea is sort of like the move Vegeta used to defeat Zarbon mixed with the dragon fist. Where you'd form a ki blast inside the opponent and shot it out the other side of their body in the shape of an animal head. Again, mostly just like this one for the visual image.

As for TOP head cannons, I had one involving Belmod being the main enemy of the pride troopers until Jiren showed up to interfere, and the aftermath resulting in Belmod becoming an ally and Jiren becoming a Pride Trooper.

There was also my headcanon of universe 3 being the same universe Chrono Trigger takes place in, but that wasn't as serious.

edited 16th Jan '18 9:11:32 AM by TwistedGear

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#75596: Jan 16th 2018 at 9:18:40 AM

CAC male Voice number 8 was not TFS Nappa in Japanese Xenoverse, and many of Voice 8's lines are references to TFS. Funimation can and will flat-out change dialogue into something funnier if it's a relatively inconsequential change.

Just as an aside, it's actually Christopher Sabat's ADR Studio, Okatron 5000, that handles the dubbing for Kai, Super, and all of the Video Games. So this is why we've seen some adlibbed lines in Super's dub and now some of these fandom shoutouts in the games.

edited 16th Jan '18 9:19:38 AM by Lionheart0

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#75597: Jan 16th 2018 at 9:45:38 AM

[up][up] My friend likes to believe Chrono Trigger takes place in Universe 12 due to the invention of Time Travel there.

I could see it happening, but Lavos would have to be a really treaky fellow in order to bend tme like that and Geene and the Supreme Kai of Time of that universe not being able to stop him. Anyway, a cool theory.

I personally believe Jiren home planet was destroyed by Belmod, and he wanted revenge. But, since Belmod was just doing his job, Jiren couldn't complete his vengeance, and decided to spread justice across the universe to cease the destruction of planets. That's why the universe mortal level is so high: not because of Belmod, but because of Jiren.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
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#75598: Jan 16th 2018 at 11:28:52 AM

[up] well considering Geene's refusal to fight with the other Go D's was because "the result is obvious" I imagine he'd adopt a similar stance with Lavos.

I would seriously love if at least one universe was home to one of Toriyama's other works, you know, besides universe 7 being home to Dr. Slump and possibly a few others.

That being said, I wonder how the four, non-participating universes will factor into later arcs. I can't imagine leaving them out was just for the sake of not having to design 40 more characters.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#75599: Jan 16th 2018 at 1:47:27 PM

Dr. Slump is already apart of the DB Universe...

There's been like...2 cross overs already and an animated OVA retelling of one.

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#75600: Jan 16th 2018 at 1:54:48 PM

[up] I am aware, I said besides that.


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