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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#75151: Jan 10th 2018 at 11:03:22 PM

Big Green Paragus is a treasure.

This song needs more love.
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#75152: Jan 10th 2018 at 11:48:13 PM

Jesus christ, could you be any more unenthusiastic about crushing your father to death?

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#75153: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:12:51 AM

"Ahhhhhhhhhhhh."

Beautiful

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#75154: Jan 11th 2018 at 5:17:23 AM

[up] He's not crushing him to death, he's sending him.... to THE NEXT DIMENSION!

Also, from that Heroes trailer, can we get Adult Supreme Kai of Time, like, all the time from now on? Please?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#75155: Jan 11th 2018 at 8:38:43 AM

Spoiler: Maji kayo isn't here.

Masako X talking about the best Side-fighters from the Tournament. I agree with his decisions, the fighters are pretty cool for minor characters. Except possibly number 10 and 2, there were 'hilarious.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#75156: Jan 11th 2018 at 8:54:01 AM

Great to see the Trio de Dangers on there.

Speaking of which, I'm thinking of writing a "what if?" fanfic that has Universe 9's team fighting smarter instead of trying to gang attack Goku and Vegeta. It'll basically be a series of fights that we could have seen if they had lasted longer.

Some of the fights I'm thinking of writing are Lavenda vs. Dyspo, Hop vs. Sanka Ku (cat fight!), Hyssop vs. Auta Magetta, Basil vs. Methiop and Bergamo vs. Kale. Thoughts?

edited 11th Jan '18 8:55:10 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#75157: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:04:52 AM

I thought of something like that too, and I'd be more interested in a team battle between the Trio De Dangers and the Kamikaze Fireballs, culminating in a Kaiju battle between Giant Bergamo and Giant Super Ribrianne.

On Masako X's video, aside from Dr. Rota, who's obviously a joke placement, I'd have to say that I agree with all of his picks. I like that he specifically chose B characters from the Tournament of Power, and not A- characters like Kale, Caulifla, Kafla, or Ribrianne.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#75158: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:34:18 AM

Big Green Paragus is the best thing to come out of that dub.

Also, I wonder if they'll ever make a Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto or a Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#75159: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:36:37 AM

See, I don't understand why Gogeta hasn't made a reappearance, he's way cooler than Vegetto in my mind (and he would get around having to retcon in the earrings having a time limit).

edited 11th Jan '18 9:36:57 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#75160: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:42:20 AM

There's barely difference between them aside from the methods they fuse and the clothes they wear.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#75161: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:44:21 AM

Vaguely on the topic of B-Tier Tournament of Power characters (actually a C-Tier), remember Murisam? Well, I remember seeing something, either a video or a comic, that had Murisam one-shot Cabba and immediately fight and defeat all the other major fighters of the tournament, from Goku and Freeza to Kale and Jiren, kind of combining One Punch Man with Black Dynamite, and it was awesome. For the life of me, I can't find it again, though.

edited 11th Jan '18 9:44:39 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#75162: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:44:39 AM

[up][up]Yes, and Gogeta

  1. .Looks cooler
  2. .Doesn't require a retcon of an already existing ability.

edited 11th Jan '18 9:45:33 AM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#75163: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:46:01 AM

The way you phrased it made it sounds like there were other, non-superficial differences between them though.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#75164: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:46:07 AM

Also Gogeta has actually won a fight.

This song needs more love.
Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#75165: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:48:59 AM

I said he was cooler. I mean, he's a fusion of Goku and Vegeta, there's not a lot of ways to play around with that apart from how they look and precisely how strong they are.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#75166: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:51:27 AM

Yes, but Gogeta doesn't actually do any of that, and there's no reason to not be able to do things like that with Vegetto.

And it's not like the retcon with the potaras is somehow the character Vegetto's fault. If you think the character just looks cooler that's fine; you don't need to pretend like there's more substantive reasoning behind it.

edited 11th Jan '18 9:52:29 AM by LSBK

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#75167: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:55:57 AM

In the Goku Black arc a fusion of Goku and Vegeta fight Merged Zamasu and lose because they defuse before they can beat him.

Regardless of whether Gogeta or Vegetto is cooler, Gogeta fits in that situation better because it doesn't require the story to change how he works for the story to go ahead.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#75168: Jan 11th 2018 at 9:57:23 AM

I mean, just say that first then.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#75169: Jan 11th 2018 at 10:03:40 AM

Gogeta also introduces another (albeit much smaller) retcon: Goku and Vegeta aren't the same height. Vegeta is canonically 11 centimeters shorter than Goku, and the difference can look much greater Depending on the Artist.

There's also the question of why bother with Gogeta when Shin is right there, has Potara, and Vegetto is stronger.

edited 11th Jan '18 10:05:13 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#75170: Jan 11th 2018 at 10:20:28 AM

Obviously because Gogeta can then use the potara with Shin to make the fusion really permanent!

Was Gogeta from a movie or GT?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#75172: Jan 11th 2018 at 10:21:18 AM

But...we've always known Goku is taller than Vegeta.

He's been that way since they first met.

One Strip! One Strip!
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#75173: Jan 11th 2018 at 10:25:23 AM

[up]x3: Specifically the Fusion Reborn movie with Janemba. Gogeta's creation in that movie was the catalyst for Toriyama introducing the Potara fusion in the first place, to avoid retreading the like-minded ground Toei made regarding a Goku x Vegeta fusion.

The SSJ 4 version, with its playful personality, came from GT introduction.

edited 11th Jan '18 10:29:36 AM by XMenMutant22

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#75175: Jan 11th 2018 at 11:03:07 AM

[up][up][up]The retcon would basically be that Metamoran fusion is more flexible with heights than previously alluded to.

[up] DAMN DYSPO! Don't impress me too much here!

edited 11th Jan '18 11:04:49 AM by PushoverMediaCritic


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